KK hand and totally unsure what to do with it

Olrik · #1 10-02-2007, 10:21 AM

the table was full of 50/10 monkeys...

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
Hero raises, 2 folds, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets, Hero raises, Button calls, SB calls, BB 3-bets, Hero calls, Button calls, SB caps, BB calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (12 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets, BB raises, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls.

River: (15.60 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.60 BB

BB raised allin for only another 20cent on the turn.

Oink · #2 10-02-2007, 10:24 AM

With BB stacking of I prolly cap the flop. Not that it matters much.

I raise the turn to try and fold out button. However SB is showing a lot of strength...

Fo10 · #3 10-02-2007, 10:57 AM

I just call the turn and hope the SB doesn't have the ace high flush. The river I can't imagine being good here, but getting ~16.5:1 I call here.

Oink · #4 10-02-2007, 11:02 AM

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I just call the turn and hope the SB doesn't have the ace high flush. The river I can't imagine being good here, but getting ~16.5:1 I call here.

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AsJ, AsT and As3 are all reasonable hands for SB to have. River is a VERY VERY easy call. Closer to a raise than a fold.

Fo10 · #5 10-02-2007, 11:23 AM

I'm not saying fold, because folding here is a huge mistake, but I am saying that I do not see us being good here very often. Whenever I see this line I always get hit with the nuts. As3 I just can't see played like this, AsJ and As10 are reasonable though.

Oink · #6 10-02-2007, 11:30 AM

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As3 I just can't see played like this, AsJ and As10 are reasonable though.

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50/10 guys arent reasonable. Dont restrict retarded player's range to reasonable hands. You will see a naked spade here often enough.

But I am nitpicking here. We agree its a call so whatever [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Olrik · #7 10-02-2007, 11:36 AM

i didnt cap the flop because the button would have called anyway.

danzasmack · #8 10-02-2007, 11:38 AM

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I raise the turn to try and fold out button.

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What?

jba · #9 10-02-2007, 11:43 AM

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i didnt cap the flop because the button would have called anyway.

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precisely why you should

Oink · #10 10-02-2007, 11:46 AM

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I raise the turn to try and fold out button.

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What?

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Meh, prolly too optimistic. Still not sure about turn play tho...