what the hell (PF decision)

nath · #1 12-15-2006, 03:04 AM

Stars 1 AM $109. I've played wild early but villain wasn't here for it. I've not played a hand in a couple of orbits. I have him at 16/5 over ~100 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t6195)
MP1 (t6180)
MP2 (t1110)
CO (t2695)
Button (t1410)
SB (t2110)
BB (t4090)
UTG (t1250)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to t320, 4 folds, SB raises to t938, 1 fold, Hero WHAT

diebitter · #2 12-15-2006, 03:07 AM

I'd call if it was his whole stack, but that 1K+ to go makes my teeth itch.

I'd fold, but I am weak-tight in spots like this.

eBo · #3 12-15-2006, 03:08 AM

Guess you gotta flip. Maybe he's trying to pull a go&go on you.

I would call, and if no A or K appears on flop, then I get it all in.

shaundeeb · #4 12-15-2006, 03:43 AM

I usually shove here and hate myself for it. Right move is fold but when I get a pair I rarely fold.

Soulman · #5 12-15-2006, 04:13 AM

16/5 is pretty damn weak...I think I can find a fold here, given the circumstances.

fouf1974 · #6 12-15-2006, 05:30 AM

You have position and a bigger stack. Perfect spot to flat call and see a flop. He will probably go allin on the flop but then you can take your decision knowing 3 of the 5 cards of the board.

Jurollo · #7 12-15-2006, 05:32 AM

Call. Reevaluate flop. Is that bad?

Didnt see his stack
Its shove fold, I shove if I were you.
~J

Jurollo · #8 12-15-2006, 05:36 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Call. Reevaluate flop. Is that bad?

Didnt see his stack
Its shove fold, I shove if I were you.
~J

[/ QUOTE ]

Also this is a rare case where shoving or folding are probably almost exactly the same EV long term. Which is weird for me to think about since the difference in chips you are risking is t1800 (30% of our stack).
~J

duvvard · #9 12-15-2006, 05:55 AM

With him being weak (100 hands is usually enough for a decent read), and him seemingly BEGGING for action I think you are no better than 35% against his range...unless hes thinking on like the 4th level.

dneedle1 · #10 12-15-2006, 12:30 PM

With his weak tight numbers, and reluctance to raise, and his raising an UTG raiser oop, seems like a pretty clear fold to me, even with seemingly good calling odds. You're up against an overpair just too high a percentage of the time, and even some weak resteal hands are races. He's not going to lay down if he catches any piece of the flop, and of course he won' lay down JJ or QQ on any flop. Needless to say, you're committed to an underflop, or even probably a Q 8 5 flop.