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Old 11-20-2007, 03:23 AM
OSUGreg1983 OSUGreg1983 is offline
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Default Hows about a double barrel?--OESD

Disregarding the preflop hand choice (which I think is ok from position every once and a while with many limpers), how's about firin the turn? Many villains call the flop with any 2 overs at 5NL. Double barrel feelin yay or nay?

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $2
Hero (BTN): $7.07
SB: $9.66
BB: $5.50
UTG: $7.15
MP: $8.33

CO posts $0.05
Pre-Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.40</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $0.35, CO folds

Flop: ($0.97) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.70</font>, MP calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.37) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero ?
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:29 AM
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Default Re: Hows about a double barrel?--OESD

I had checked this he aint going anywhere, only way u can get him away from hes fd is too three barrel if he misses but thats sooo spewey. And he is calling any pair here alot.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:39 AM
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Default Re: Hows about a double barrel?--OESD

take the free card
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: Hows about a double barrel?--OESD

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I had checked this he aint going anywhere, only way u can get him away from hes fd is too three barrel if he misses but thats sooo spewey. And he is calling any pair here alot.

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At this level, villain holds 2 random over cards more often than a flush or straight draw. They almost always call a c-bet because, after all, they can still hit a pair!
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:40 AM
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Default Re: Hows about a double barrel?--OESD

check behind.
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Old 11-20-2007, 03:42 AM
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Default Re: Hows about a double barrel?--OESD

Yea I guess it does get spewy though.
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:42 AM
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Default Re: Hows about a double barrel?--OESD

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I had checked this he aint going anywhere, only way u can get him away from hes fd is too three barrel if he misses but thats sooo spewey. And he is calling any pair here alot.

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At this level, villain holds 2 random over cards more often than a flush or straight draw. They almost always call a c-bet because, after all, they can still hit a pair!

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Then why are you C-betting or even playing the hand PF..There not folding and you have NO hand?????
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:44 AM
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Default Re: Hows about a double barrel?--OESD

check turn villain not folding and your hands picked up outs..No 2 barrell bluffing at this level value bet made hands...
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Old 11-20-2007, 04:59 AM
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Then why are you C-betting or even playing the hand PF..There not folding and you have NO hand?????

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First of all, my discussion about calling stations on the flop has nothing to do with my PFR. Widening your range in these spots can be +EV when you hit big. If I miss terribly its an easy c/f.

Second, the implied odds if we hit the straight are very good. Say villain has Ax and he calls my 2 barrel, followed by an A dropping on the river. He thinks he has made the best hand, I bet hard (sometimes more than full pot), he insta calls and I fist pump. If he calls my turn bet and I miss, losing the hand, then I have lost much less than I would have potentially made had I hit.

+EV, imo. Keep in mind you can overbet made hands at 5NL and find a caller often. You can't compare my argument at 5NL with what you think would happen at 25NL+.
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Old 11-20-2007, 05:01 AM
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check turn villain not folding and your hands picked up outs..No 2 barrell semi- bluffing at this level value bet made hands...

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