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#21
11-20-2007, 06:27 PM
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Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers
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Did you even read all my post? You don't have to c bet every flop multiway. [/ QUOTE ] Yes sir. [ QUOTE ] So don't c bet. Just put as much money in the pot with the best hand as you can. [/ QUOTE ] IF you're going to do this you might as well just call preflop, or fold. If I'm gonna build pot preflop with no intention of c-betting (which I never do) its going to be with suited connectors or small-medium pp's for set value. 
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#22
11-20-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers
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Why is it so painful for people to find their fold button here? You're guaranteeing yourself a maximum loss of two pennies by folding. If we raise it up 4BB + 1BB for every limper, we're asking for a classic "one bad call induces 3 others" at 5NL. If we can't get this to heads up, which is so difficult to do, we're a huge underdog to take down the pot postflop OOP. Only sure way to take this down would be to over-raise like 10-12 BB's, but even then you get passive donkeys who call because its only .55. Players dont think in relative pot size at this limit. Fold ONE hand, come on you can do it! Silly 6max NL players. If we're playing a 500-1k hand session, I think we can find a better spot and fold one here. [/ QUOTE ] you put in two of pokeys points in "ugly comments in hand histories" into one post 1. "weve only put in two pennies" 2. "we can find a better spot check out his post, i bumped it with you in mind
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#24
11-20-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers
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lol wtf, you all raise here? I'd never ever do that. Call [/ QUOTE ]
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#25
11-20-2007, 06:36 PM
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Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers
I guess I'm just thinking out of the box here. I find that people who disagree with OP are most likely to respond and people who are on the fence or actually agree with me tend not to post in fear of getting flamed (which I don't mind obviously).
I still have long term profits which come from picking spots I'm comfortable playing. I guess missing tiny value in a "bunch" of these spots, as many suggest, isn't of my main concern.
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#26
11-20-2007, 06:53 PM
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Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers
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check out his post, i bumped it with you in mind [/ QUOTE ] I think Pokey's post is very good. However I read somewhere on here that if you're not comfortable playing in marginal situations (which routinely occur OOP), avoiding them is fine until you become a better post flop player. I sometimes call here/sometimes fold. If I'm running terrible I don't want to run into a stupid spot so I might just fold to save my sanity.
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#27
11-20-2007, 06:54 PM
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Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers
the way to become a better postflop player isnt to avoid marginal spots.
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#28
11-20-2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers
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the way to become a better postflop player isnt to avoid marginal spots. [/ QUOTE ] Avoiding marginal spots is mentioned in numerous CR videos aimed at relatively new players. I've also read it in a couple good 2+2 posts (don't know them off the top of my head). You can practice playing post flop in hands that you feel comfortable and GRADUALLY move into marginal spots. But playing every marginal spot you encounter is spew for a beginner, which I still consider myself to be obv since I'm playing 5NL.
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#29
11-20-2007, 07:02 PM
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Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers
this isnt a bad marginal spot though
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#30
11-20-2007, 07:16 PM
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Re: AJo OOP--multiple limpers
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this isnt a bad marginal spot though [/ QUOTE ] I think it can turn bad if we raise, like most people here are suggesting we do. If we just call, which I feel is the correct play with so many limpers, then yes you're right.
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