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Re: [150NL] 88 Flopped set 550bb\'s Deep
he cant have ak?
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Re: [150NL] 88 Flopped set 550bb\'s Deep
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Ya, we are saying the same thing. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah you're right...I just assumed you meant raising turn was bad. My fault. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: [150NL] 88 Flopped set 550bb\'s Deep
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Don't raise turn and call unless you are willing to play for stacks. [/ QUOTE ] Don't really agree w/ this. Raising, at the time, was the most +EV play. Just because he 3-bet doesn't make the decision to raise wrong...and we don't have to necessarily play for stacks here either given how deep we are. I mean like 95% of the time, he's just calling this raise and probably paying off a (now) much larger river bet. Saying we shouldn't raise turn is being too results-oriented IMO. As for the actual hand, wow, I'm tempted to dump the turn. Definitely dumping river though. Of course I rarely ever play this deep (like most here)...so take that FWIW. [/ QUOTE ] Ya, we are saying the same thing. [/ QUOTE ] sh*t should have kept reading! |
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Re: [150NL] 88 Flopped set 550bb\'s Deep
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[ QUOTE ] Don't raise turn and call unless you are willing to play for stacks. [/ QUOTE ] Don't really agree w/ this. Raising, at the time, was the most +EV play. Just because he 3-bet doesn't make the decision to raise wrong...and we don't have to necessarily play for stacks here either given how deep we are. I mean like 95% of the time, he's just calling this raise and probably paying off a (now) much larger river bet. Saying we shouldn't raise turn is being too results-oriented IMO. As for the actual hand, wow, I'm tempted to dump the turn. Definitely dumping river though. Of course I rarely ever play this deep (like most here)...so take that FWIW. [/ QUOTE ] margarine was not saying to not raise turn. he was just saying that once 3 bet, you have to either play for stacks or fold immediately. looks like a fold this deep against this player |
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Re: [150NL] 88 Flopped set 550bb\'s Deep
I talk to Danibus or however he spells his name in the chat when we play, and he's a good guy and I don't play him HU, but that's mainly because he's very, very nitty. He never ever has AK here. This is one of those folds I actually advocate here and I also make at the time.
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Re: [150NL] 88 Flopped set 550bb\'s Deep
actually I was just reviewing some of his hands in PT and he's not that nitty. I've actually got him running at 36/16/2.1 over 2k hands, but a lot of those are super short handed I think. he might just be a little nittier vs. me so do you have any idea how he perceives you?
I'm just trying to put myself in his shoes if he had AK/44 and I'm really not sure he's doing with them. I think he might play them similarly. really, REALLY gross spot |
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Re: [150NL] 88 Flopped set 550bb\'s Deep
if you fold river you should fodl to turn 3bet
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Re: [150NL] 88 Flopped set 550bb\'s Deep
lol this hand gets more disgusting the more I think about it ugghgh
I also knew results beforehand which might be making me biased |
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Re: [150NL] 88 Flopped set 550bb\'s Deep
deep games are sick.
given the information in the op, i think i prefer calling his turn bet, raising a river bet, and probably folding to a shove. |
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Re: [150NL] 88 Flopped set 550bb\'s Deep
This is so sick given description of villian. On your first raise on the turn did he tank for long? I agree with the people who said you shouldn't raise the turn if you don't want to play for stacks. As played I still think you have to fold to the 3-bet on the turn. This is the problem - it's so hard not to automatically be wanting to play for stacks with a set here on this board. I don't have much experience playing this deep - I'm not sure what the correct line is here at all. Calling on the turn and then just calling on the river seems ridiculous with your hand. Calling on the turn and then if he checks value-bet the river for AK is another option - I mean calling after his initial turn bet without raising. Nothing seems particularly attractive.
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