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Old 11-25-2007, 06:02 AM
AGame18 AGame18 is offline
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Default Re: ($109) Going broke w/ AQ in an unraised pot

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Yeh, I am an advocate of sometimes limping, but this is a really bad spot to limp.

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What would be a good spot to limp with AQ if this isn't one?
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: ($109) Going broke w/ AQ in an unraised pot

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Yeh, I am an advocate of sometimes limping, but this is a really bad spot to limp.

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What would be a good spot to limp with AQ if this isn't one?

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I said there are reasonable spots to limp, not to limp AQ. You might limp AQ in early position with 17-40xBB. The idea would be to limpreraise, but you could fold depending on the action, and there might also be situations to limp/call. However, in general AQ is just not a good hand to open limp.

With reasonably deep money, raising AQo UTG works fairly well. QQ+ and AK usually reraise. So you generally are not dominated if you are called.

You don't get a lot of value raising AQ in early position , because when you hit, it is what people are expecting.

With the limp, what do you do if you are raised? All the alternatives are not very good. In a limped pot, you have a hand that makes ace high or TPTK/TPGK, which is not very profitable and tricky to play.
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Old 11-25-2007, 11:57 AM
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Default Re: ($109) Going broke w/ AQ in an unraised pot

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You don't get a lot of value raising AQ in early position , because when you hit, it is what people are expecting.

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I have a feeling you guys won't like this but is folding it UTG an option? I think in an MTT raising it is probably best just because, like you say, AK usually reraises (in a sng it doesn't so AQ has always been a problem to play for me).

It just seems as though when you hit you can't get action except for hands that beat you UNLESS there are uberdonks on the table. I should have definitely just raised (or mucked) it. How about folding it on a decent table and raising it on a bad table? Thoughts?

Ryan
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:04 PM
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Default Re: ($109) Going broke w/ AQ in an unraised pot

With AJ or AT, you could raise, limp, or fold. Just raise AQ, but you don't get huge EV.

Limping AQ may be OK if you don't go broke with top pair. Problem is that someone limping behind in position with a suited connector or small pair has an advantage. Also, you don't know what to do to a raise. If you raise UTG, you have an easy fold to a reraise, and you are dominated the majority of the time.
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