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Old 09-01-2007, 05:27 AM
Snipe Snipe is offline
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Default NL100 - Is this why we don\'t play trash hands oop?

Not sure what to think of this hand. Against a 27/20 (at the time) I’d toss this more often than not oop, however limper was a 33/0 showdown monkey who I was sure would come along.

In retrospect, I think I should have c/c the turn, or at the very least, b/f as I look reasonably strong and can probably safely toss this one.

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Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $100.00
Hero (BB): $112.85
UTG: $33.95
MP: $121.45
CO: $101.50
BTN: $192.70

Reads: <font color="blue">Villain is 25/21 over 121
I'm 19/16 at this particular table.</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, <font color="red">MP raises to $4.50</font>, 3 folds, Hero calls $3.50, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: ($14) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks

Turn: ($14) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $9.00</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $24.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00

River: ($62) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP bets $73.00</font>, Hero ???
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:28 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - Is this why we don\'t play trash hands oop?

I probably check to him on the turn, what do you expect him to call with that you're ahead of?

I think when he raises turn you gotta fold.. you pretty much answered it in your OP.
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - Is this why we don\'t play trash hands oop?

if youre going to fold the river you should probably fold the turn.
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Old 09-01-2007, 09:06 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - Is this why we don\'t play trash hands oop?

As played I think you have to fold the turn unless you have seen villain get out of line.

I think the turn bet is fine since UTG donk will give you action with worse K's and flush draws.
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - Is this why we don\'t play trash hands oop?

I really like folding the turn. He would have bet a pocket pair like 88-JJ on the flop. It looks like he hit a set and figured you guys probably hit nothing on that ragged board, so was just waiting for a big card to fall before he put some money in the pot. Which is exactly what happened.
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Old 09-01-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - Is this why we don\'t play trash hands oop?

UTG must be pretty bad to limp and then call 3.50 after a raise and a call.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:36 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - Is this why we don\'t play trash hands oop?

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UTG must be pretty bad to limp and then call 3.50 after a raise and a call.

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what a pointless and stupid comment



op, pf is meh. I dont mind it given the fact that utg is a donkey. Turn bet is fine (to those saying, what worse is that tag going to call with - well we arent vb against the tag.) turn is wierd, the only hand that beats you that makes sense is AK. I think this looks alot like a draw, but i think folding is good w/o better reads. Although, i dont mind calling turn and river because he looks pretty full of it.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:44 AM
MrDurden19 MrDurden19 is offline
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what a pointless and stupid comment



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as was that.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - Is this why we don\'t play trash hands oop?

If limper is really a monkey then I think this is ok, I fold now. It's not often a draw, that small raise on the turn, and when it is I expect a smaller bluff on the river more often than not. Not saying you're never getting bluffed here but I still fold.
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Old 09-01-2007, 11:54 AM
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Default Re: NL100 - Is this why we don\'t play trash hands oop?

fold preflop

check turn

as played fold turn

as played call river
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