100r JJ pre flop huge pot spot

Bond18 · #1 07-31-2007, 03:58 PM

I've got a kind of aggressive image after opening 2 or 3 times the last round with good hands and not being called. Havn't done any 3 betting yet though. Don't know anything about villain, don't have my PT/PAHUD on this computer.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

UTG (t20283)
UTG+1 (t6050)
MP1 (t13519)
MP2 (t6825)
MP3 (t2824)
CO (t16002)
Hero (t19720)
SB (t7825)
BB (t17388)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
5 folds, CO raises to t900, Hero raises to t3000, 1 fold, BB raises to t17363, CO folds, Hero?

NHFunkii · #2 07-31-2007, 04:10 PM

pretty much QQ+,AK, you need 40% and don't have it, fold
raising 3 times in a round isn't enough to make someone do this with anything less very often

KneeCo · #3 07-31-2007, 04:15 PM

Is he ever doing this with AQ/TT??

I don't think so, but what do I know about pf ranges at in the 100r (what do I know about poker at all, really).

In any case, I think AQ/TT isn't in his range here so I fold, if you feel it was because of the situation or something you should obv take the unhappy side of the flip.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

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Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.585% 35.01% 01.57% 125907060 5645496.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 63.415% 61.85% 01.57% 222385788 5645496.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.876% 45.83% 01.04% 268395396 6112398.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 53.124% 52.08% 01.04% 304987776 6112398.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }

djk123 · #4 07-31-2007, 04:27 PM

This hand is so dependent on how the BB plays and how he perceives both you and CO, so it's a pretty sucky spot given no reads. I cannot use pokerstove atm, but I think this is really close.

I would say QQ+,AK is too tight given it's a CO open, button 3bet. What is JJ's equity vs TT(50%),JJ-KK,AA(50%),AK?

Although lots of people would jam AA here, I think a lot of unknowns would make a smaller reraise. Also, I don't think we can flat out eliminate TT from the shover's range.

registrar · #5 07-31-2007, 04:34 PM

I'm with DJK. If I'm raising over an EP raise from CO, or if I've raised less, then yes but I think an unknown BB in the $100r shoving over an aggro button's resteal has a wider range than QQ+, AK. Even if somewhat heavily weighted towards the stronger side of that range, you'll still see TT and AQs and very occasionally other stuff enough to make this a call.

mastr · #6 07-31-2007, 05:38 PM

i'm with the other 2 and am leaning towards call but i think this is a very tough spot and in no way would mind a fold at all