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Old 07-31-2007, 05:27 PM
Bond18 Bond18 is offline
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Default 3 bet AI with Q high on flop in 50r

Villain is Rabscuttle. I'm newish to table and haven't been to active. I'm pretty sure given his bet size he's leaving himself room to fold plus i don't think he theres a lot of A's he's not either 3 betting or folding pre (though i'm sure some theres some suited ones he does flat call pre.) Also doubt he would take such an obvious line as this.

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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO (t5812)
Hero (t11135)
SB (t4822)
BB (t15010)
UTG (t15001)
UTG+1 (t12040)
MP1 (t12100)
MP2 (t20273)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]], Q[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]].
[color=Gray]5 folds</font>, [color=Red]Hero raises to t1050</font>, [color=Gray]1 fold</font>, BB calls t650.

Flop: (t1875) A[[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]], 3[[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]], A[[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]] [color=Blue](2 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=Red]Hero bets t1400</font>, [color=Red]BB raises to t3600</font>, [color=Red]Hero raises to t10060</font>
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:33 PM
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Default Re: 3 bet AI with Q high on flop in 50r

what's the history, if any. he thinks you're the player that will always have air if you 3bet a completely dry paired flop?
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Old 07-31-2007, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: 3 bet AI with Q high on flop in 50r

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what's the history, if any. he thinks you're the player that will always have air if you 3bet a completely dry paired flop?

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No history on this table with this villain. Given my 2 month absence from online poker, doubt theres any real history that comes to mind for him.
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:13 AM
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Default Re: 3 bet AI with Q high on flop in 50r

is this how you play an a?
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:33 AM
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Default Re: 3 bet AI with Q high on flop in 50r

this basically seems crazy to me, I think he has an A here a lot isn't he very solid?
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Old 08-01-2007, 01:50 AM
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Default Re: 3 bet AI with Q high on flop in 50r

looks a lot like he has 44-99. Depending on how he's feeling/playing he may or may not fold here.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:07 AM
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Default Re: 3 bet AI with Q high on flop in 50r

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looks a lot like he has 44-99.

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Why is 44-99 more likely than KJ or 78s or even A9/A7s? If anything this play makes less sense with a mid pair. Please explain how you put him on such a precise range from a BB defense of a button raise.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: 3 bet AI with Q high on flop in 50r

Watts, i agree that this is often crazy. I just felt for some reason with stacks he left himself room to fold and i see him leading or check calling an A as often as he CR's.

I think most often i'll be given credit for a mid pair, so he might fold some of his lower ones. I mean he very rarely ever thinks i'm making a total play here. I just don't think he raises an amount that gives himself room to fold with to many mid pairs.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: 3 bet AI with Q high on flop in 50r

if you're going to do something like this

just call and shove turn if he checks because he's never bluffing again if you flat this c/r

but his play is terrible and makes no sense and he's not good at NL so why bother flipping a coin and hoping he's making a retarded play without a hand instead of a retarded play with a hand
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: 3 bet AI with Q high on flop in 50r

why is his play terrible? i like his line. the only thing that i worry about on the shove turn line is he will definitely check an ace if this is what he has.
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