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#12
08-30-2007, 02:03 PM
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Re: QJ flopped trips limped pot - river value bet all inor not?
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Nice suggestion, wuwei. But would you fold then? We are getting good odds and without reads, I don't know if he is not a retard who caught an ace on the river with a hands like at? I would call here just because the odds. ??????? [/ QUOTE ] If you do that, you should either bet smaller to induce a raise or just shove yourself. Betting 60 on the end doesn't really give villian a chance to raise with worse. If he is dumb enough to get it in with an ace on the end you are much much better of shoving, instead of b/c. I'm not saying you SHOULD be shoving, but it is better than betting 60 and calling a shove. 
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#14
08-30-2007, 02:10 PM
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Re: QJ flopped trips limped pot - river value bet all inor not?
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Just as I said earlier shove or check. So I believe checking is better, right? [/ QUOTE ] I'm not saying that either. All that I was saying is that if you are going to bet 60, you should fold to a raise. Betting here might be ok, but only if you can fold to a raise. Personally, I like checking behind.
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#15
08-30-2007, 02:15 PM
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Re: QJ flopped trips limped pot - river value bet all inor not?
I think you're odds are too big to fold to a raise with a $60-70 bet. I really feel you've got to go all in or check behind and I think its like 25/75 in favour of checking... It ended up being a horrible board...
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#16
08-30-2007, 02:57 PM
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Re: QJ flopped trips limped pot - river value bet all inor not?
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I think you're odds are too big to fold to a raise with a $60-70 bet. [/ QUOTE ] This is a leak that a lot of players in SSNL seem to have (although this might not be the best example). They like to value bet thin, which is fine, but when they get c/r they feel like they are priced into call with a hand that they weren't even sure they should be betting in the first place. Yes, if you bet $60 and get shoved, your odds are huge. But the probability that he shoves with a worse hand when you look committed don't justify a call IMO.
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#17
08-30-2007, 04:04 PM
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Re: QJ flopped trips limped pot - river value bet all inor not?
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Anyone checking the turn? Just a suggestion. I don't like it however. [/ QUOTE ] I do check it. simply because the flush and KJ got there. other (reasonable) hands in his range would only be other queens against which the 9d is a scare card from hell. As played I dont hate a river shove. He is prob not checking a str8/flush on the river with just a psb. (He might b/c of paired board but then he shouldn't call. )
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#19
08-30-2007, 06:54 PM
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Re: QJ flopped trips limped pot - river value bet all inor not?
results: he had a flush. Kind of a weird play but it worked for him. Next time I won't just say: Oh I have trips but I will also look at the texture of the flop and see if it is a profitable bet.
His play was not likely for his hand. I thought I was ahead. However, now I realized that there was a chance I had the best hand and would be called by a push (in case he is an idiot) but there was also a chance he slowplayed his hand and it was more likely he slowplayed his hand than that he is an idiot. Just talk a little bull**** here.
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