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08-30-2006, 12:13 AM
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Hoi Polloi\'s highly anticipated stat post
The discussion in this unfortunate thread generated some interest about my short-handed statistics for 3 reasons:
1. I made what is all things being equal a bad fold in the sample hand; 2. Some posters suggested I fold too much based on my comments in this thread ; and 3. I misrepresented my WtSD # in the first thread. These stats represent about 25k hands at 5/10 and 7k hands at 10/20 (I started playing 6-max exclusively in June). Without further ado here they are: VPIP: 27.6 PFR: 20.8 AG (post-flop): 2.38 WtSD: 35.5 (I misstated this as 45 in the referenced thread) W$SD: 54.7 I post this primarily for those few posters who may be interested from the previous discussion. Any comments are welcome. I promise not to be defensive. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] Cheers... 
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#3
08-30-2006, 02:12 AM
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Re: Hoi Polloi\'s highly anticipated stat post
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35 is a bit low for a 27/20 style. Might be OK for 23/18 but you probably fold too much for 27/20. [/ QUOTE ] I'd say exactly the opposite. The tighter you are preflop the more inclined you should be to go to showdown.
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#4
08-30-2006, 02:15 AM
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Re: Hoi Polloi\'s highly anticipated stat post
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[ QUOTE ] 35 is a bit low for a 27/20 style. Might be OK for 23/18 but you probably fold too much for 27/20. [/ QUOTE ] I'd say exactly the opposite. The tighter you are preflop the more inclined you should be to go to showdown. [/ QUOTE ] The tighter you are, the less your opponents will stay with you to showdown, too. Hard to tell the overall effect, but I think that's what you're saying anyway.
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#5
08-30-2006, 02:19 AM
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Re: Hoi Polloi\'s highly anticipated stat post
By looking at those statistics I can tell you that:
1) You play poker 2) You are not retarded I hope you have found this analysis insightful. Any advice that people try and give you based on a set of statistics like that should usually be ignored. [ QUOTE ] That said my went to SD at 20/40 and 30/60 6m is between 40 and 42. [/ QUOTE ] The WTSD isn't important so much as the won showdown when saw flop (multiply WTSD x W$ASD) it should come out somewhere around at least .2 in the party games if you're tight. If you can faciliate it, you'd much rather be 33WTSD 60W$ASD than 40WTSD 50W$ASD.
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#6
08-30-2006, 03:04 AM
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Re: Hoi Polloi\'s highly anticipated stat post
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By looking at those statistics I can tell you that: 1) You play poker 2) You are not retarded I hope you have found this analysis insightful. Any advice that people try and give you based on a set of statistics like that should usually be ignored. [ QUOTE ] That said my went to SD at 20/40 and 30/60 6m is between 40 and 42. [/ QUOTE ] The WTSD isn't important so much as the won showdown when saw flop (multiply WTSD x W$ASD) it should come out somewhere around at least .2 in the party games if you're tight. If you can faciliate it, you'd much rather be 33WTSD 60W$ASD than 40WTSD 50W$ASD. [/ QUOTE ] No you wouldn't.
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#7
08-30-2006, 03:16 AM
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Re: Hoi Polloi\'s highly anticipated stat post
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That said my went to SD at 20/40 and 30/60 6m is between 40 and 42. [/ QUOTE ] The WTSD isn't important so much as the won showdown when saw flop (multiply WTSD x W$ASD) it should come out somewhere around at least .2 in the party games if you're tight. If you can faciliate it, you'd much rather be 33WTSD 60W$ASD than 40WTSD 50W$ASD. [/ QUOTE ] Bryce, Care to elaborate about the importance of WTSD x W$ASD for the statistically challenged ? For my last 80k hands I am .199
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#9
08-30-2006, 01:05 PM
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Re: Hoi Polloi\'s highly anticipated stat post
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By looking at those statistics I can tell you that: 1) You play poker 2) You are not retarded I hope you have found this analysis insightful. Any advice that people try and give you based on a set of statistics like that should usually be ignored. [/ QUOTE ] 1. Most sessions, at least. 2. I could be an idiot savant. 3. I only posted these becaue a number of posters who were quite indulgent regarding the retarded crap I was posting yesterday were interested in my stats and I thought posting them was the least I could do considering their restraint in not simply flaming the [censored] out of me. That said, I don't personally find stat posts very useful. It's just not my orientation. I tend to ignore my own for the most part and focus on using PT to review hands I screwed up and evaluate the performance of specific hands in specific game types and from specific positions. I do appreciate you succinct analysis. Thanks.
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#10
08-30-2006, 02:31 AM
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Re: Hoi Polloi\'s highly anticipated stat post
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 35 is a bit low for a 27/20 style. Might be OK for 23/18 but you probably fold too much for 27/20. [/ QUOTE ] I'd say exactly the opposite. The tighter you are preflop the more inclined you should be to go to showdown. [/ QUOTE ] The tighter you are, the less your opponents will stay with you to showdown, too. Hard to tell the overall effect, but I think that's what you're saying anyway. [/ QUOTE ] For observant opponents yes. But I think in general you starting out with better showdown material is a more important factor.
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