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Old 05-07-2007, 04:54 AM
spino1i spino1i is offline
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Default Re: wired 100/200 hand against barny boatman

Good fold. Double check-raises are usual a bad sign for your jacks here, and the ace on the river didnt help matters any.
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: wired 100/200 hand against barny boatman

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I think I usually find myself checking the turn here...

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Old 05-07-2007, 07:16 AM
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Default Re: wired 100/200 hand against barny boatman

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I think I usually find myself checking the turn here...

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i didnt want to give a free card to overcards, but now that i know hes capable of doing this its probably the best option.
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:22 AM
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Default Re: wired 100/200 hand against barny boatman

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I think I usually find myself checking the turn here...

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i agree, out of confusion more than anything
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Old 05-07-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: wired 100/200 hand against barny boatman

Do you think he min check raises flop with flopped nutz? I can't imagine that. Although after seeing the hand, it sure seems like he's a complete retard. What does a min c/r on flop accomplish, it doesn't help in any real way to build a big enough pot to help him stack you. all it really does it help to make u very suspicious.

Pretty easy fold on river but still a good one, only person you call here is David Benyamine [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] haha.

It sure smells like Ace Deuce to me.
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Old 05-07-2007, 04:57 PM
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Default Re: wired 100/200 hand against barny boatman

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I like a flop 3bet, there's a very good chance he puts you on a bluff

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i considered that, but this commits me to the hand imo. for example i make it 6600 and he comes over the top again, lets say 15k. now i have to call and call an all-in on the turn too because i set this play up. i just didnt feel like stacking off 200bb with jacks there [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]



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I agree. Stinger, why would we ever be willing to stack off 200bb with JJ Here?
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: wired 100/200 hand against barny boatman

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I like a flop 3bet, there's a very good chance he puts you on a bluff

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I think I usually find myself checking the turn here...


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Although, I'm not sure if the second quote is optimal, I just know thats "usually what I do".. maybe a player dependent spot.
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: wired 100/200 hand against barny boatman

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Stinger, why would we ever be willing to stack off 200bb with JJ Here?

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I like a flop 3bet, there's a very good chance he puts you on a bluff

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Old 05-07-2007, 05:54 PM
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Default Re: wired 100/200 hand against barny boatman

If we flop 3bet with the intention of looking like a bluff, don't we then HAVE to call a re-raise? If so, aren't we always way ahead or way behind, most likely being way behind when the money goes in?
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Old 05-07-2007, 05:59 PM
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If we flop 3bet with the intention of looking like a bluff, don't we then HAVE to call a re-raise? If so, aren't we always way ahead or way behind, most likely being way behind when the money goes in?

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There are some villains where I would be VERY happy to be getting ai on the flop here with 200bb, and there are some where that would be burning benjamins. I've never played with Barny before..
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