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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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Your arguments are all pretty weak. [/ QUOTE ] It's not often I say stuff like this but your posts shows how ignorant you are. [ QUOTE ] Suppose he wanted to play high steaks [/ QUOTE ] Is this like cow tipping? [ QUOTE ] By your logic, all transfer capability at those sites should be shut down, [/ QUOTE ] This leaves a paper trail, a massive chip dump from a stolen credit card, hacked NT account, hacked player account or some other fraud often does not. [ QUOTE ] So I dump a ton of money to him and now the site is raking from me and my pal. [/ QUOTE ] Count on both of your accounts getting locked while they investigate you. You obviously have no concept how bad the fraud problems are in the industry. Also keep in mind a massive chip dump is part of what started the public investigations into Absolute's cheating scandal. I guess we all should have ignored that too? |
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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[ QUOTE ] By your logic, all transfer capability at those sites should be shut down, [/ QUOTE ] This leaves a paper trail, a massive chip dump from a stolen credit card, hacked NT account, hacked player account or some other fraud often does not. [/ QUOTE ] Uh, how about someone hacks a Neteller account then does massive transfers at a site that allows it or uses a stolen credit card to fraudulently fund an account? This is absolutely no different than a chip dumping hax0r scam. If chip dumping is bad, then so is allowing transfers. They are effectively the same thing, and they have the same vulnerabilities. Anyone who can leave no paper trail when undertaking a chip dumping operation can also leave no paper trail when using transfers to scam players on a site or abuse the site for money laundering. Poker sites retain records of all transfers on file. They also retain all hand histories on file. Either way, they can see where money goes and where it came from, and anyone who can circumvent or obfuscate this in one case can do it in either case. You can make no rational argument for why chip dumping is worse for a site than transfer capabilities and, as such, if you believe in snitching out chip dumpers, you should also snitch out people who are posting records of their transfer deals on the relevant threads here at 2+2. There is no difference. Maybe they're hackers! Maybe they're money-laundering e-ninjas! Maybe they'll bring down the entire online poker industry! Absurd. |
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
Nick, you are clueless if you don't see the difference. One is doing something out in the open, one is trying to do something underground. The latter is a common way fraudsters attempt to get money out of poker rooms. If you don't understand one day you will find your account locked somewhere for doing the same thing endless fraudsters have done.
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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Nick, you are clueless if you don't see the difference. One is doing something out in the open, one is trying to do something underground. The latter is a common way fraudsters attempt to get money out of poker rooms. If you don't understand one day you will find your account locked somewhere for doing the same thing endless fraudsters have done. [/ QUOTE ] They are both "out in the open" to the people who run the sites and have access to all transfers, all deposits, all withdrawals, and all hand histories. The transfer is less open to everyone else. Like I said, you can make no rational argument for your case; you can apparently only warn me that my accounts are going to get investigated. I dumped chips at OnGame over two years ago, and nothing ever happened. It was either that, or watch my money simply disappear into the PokesPoker black hole of theft. But, thanks for the warning. It really makes me want to snitch out chip dumpers just because there's a miniscule chance they're doing something fraudulent. I think the money-launderers prefer the vig-free method of player to player transfers at other sites, anyway, but that's officially allowed by the sites and done behind closed doors, so I guess we should just totally ignore that and pretend we're helping the online poker industry by ratting out chip dumpers at OnGame. |
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
I'm done trying to make such an obvious point.
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Re: Massive $140,000 chip dump on Ongame
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I'm done trying to make such an obvious point. [/ QUOTE ] You could have stopped about three posts ago. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] |
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