New Software: Holdem Manager

[IHateCats]

Feature creep on this seems to be out of control. Lock down your features as is for now, finalize a db schema, prioritize your existing bugs and and fix the high severity ones and then put a HUD in beta or you'll never get this thing off the ground. Put some FAQ pages up on your site to deal with the routine issues, most commonly postgres related stuff since most have very little experience with administering their own db platform. The larger the # of people using it the greater the # of potential feature requests/other poker site requests etc but the HUD is FAR more important for 95% of your user base than a lot of the feature requests you have been dealing with for the last 3 weeks.

[rvg72]

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Feature creep on this seems to be out of control. Lock down your features as is for now, finalize a db schema, prioritize your existing bugs and and fix the high severity ones and then put a HUD in beta or you'll never get this thing off the ground. Put some FAQ pages up on your site to deal with the routine issues, most commonly postgres related stuff since most have very little experience with administering their own db platform. The larger the # of people using it the greater the # of potential feature requests/other poker site requests etc but the HUD is FAR more important for 95% of your user base than a lot of the feature requests you have been dealing with for the last 3 weeks.

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Finalizing db schema is my only priority at the moment and what I've been working on for a while. As far as feature creep, at least 95% of my development time has been spent on things I had planned on doing since the very beginning but I do agree with your overall thoughts on locking things down and moving forward with the HUD once the db schema is finalized.

Thanks,

rvg

[jack frost]

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Feature creep on this seems to be out of control. Lock down your features as is for now, finalize a db schema, prioritize your existing bugs and and fix the high severity ones and then put a HUD in beta or you'll never get this thing off the ground. Put some FAQ pages up on your site to deal with the routine issues, most commonly postgres related stuff since most have very little experience with administering their own db platform. The larger the # of people using it the greater the # of potential feature requests/other poker site requests etc but the HUD is FAR more important for 95% of your user base than a lot of the feature requests you have been dealing with for the last 3 weeks.

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I highly agree your worring waaaaaaaaaayyyyy too much about dumb crap like how many times someone call vs rasied with a-j get the program up and running and then worry all the dumb little stats most people could care less about. You speedy imports and the all around quality of your program is why i am going to buy it.

[Tickner]

rvg I just want to say good job so far, keep it up

[kingboyk]

If you haven't done it already, I think you ought to make plugin interfaces so that folks can write their own hand history importers, UI add ons, etc. You might want to look at the currently out-of-development Poker DaVinci for some ideas on that score.

I appreciate you're still in beta, but you really need to put up some documentation even if minimal. At the very least, what sites are supported (I don't want to try and import hands from unsupported sites), does it support just cash games? tournaments? sit and gos? etc.

When you have time please look at importing Prima hands direct from the .dat files. It's real simple; I forget which database type they use but it's a publically available one - may be sqlite. Answer will be on Google somewhere no doubt. Would be a nice touch since you already support Prima but with the hassle of having to get a hand history exported from the client.

MySQL would have been a better database choice imho, not least because most people with a Linux computer or web hosting account, and a few with Windows, already have it, and the config/admin tools are much better. Getting postgres running wasn't much fun and I've been in the IT game for years.

Anyway, looking pretty good, good luck and I hope to see the HUD in action soon!

[yli]

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MySQL would have been a better database choice imho, not least because most people with a Linux computer or web hosting account, and a few with Windows, already have it, and the config/admin tools are much better.

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I'm sure there are a few who would disagree on that.

[IHateCats]

MySQL has funky licensing issues, see the PokerTracker forums for a detailed thread on what Pat went through with them, in the end, it was licensing not techinical reasons why he went that way and you see very few commercial software vendors depend on MySQL for their engine.

[michaelantoi]

ETA?

[rvg72]

Here's the latest update:.

I've been reworking the db schema for a while and it is almost complete. In addition to providing a lot more functionality here are some key improvements :

* Import speeds which were already close to doubled in the last update are now an additional 30% faster. Today I imported 500K 6 max hands in 90 minutes on my oldish development pc.

* More post flop stat breakdowns. Ie all flop stats when calling preflop vs a 4bet to give one of many examples.

* All reports / graphs / last x hands / summary etc are at least 4 times faster and many are much faster than this compared to the last version.

I'm going to have to release an update tomorrow that simply extends the beta date because I believe it runs out on the 21st but I continue to make a ton of progress on this new build. This is really the foundation of everything else I build in the future so it needs to be done right. Just realize that although progress may appear slow over the last month, things are actually coming together quite quickly and I'm extremely happy with where I'm at with HM. Expect the new build in 1-2 weeks and yes, it will require a reimport. I will provide a way to import or at least export from the current HM Database.

This will be the best analysis / tracking program available and version 1.0 is just the beginning.

rvg

[stigmata]

i previously had the 0,0,0 import problem

Now, I can't even get an error message. When I select a file or folder, the screen just stays completely blank. The "stop import" button will flash up for a split second, but that is all.

Let me know if I can be of assistance..... i'm desperate to try this thing out dammnit!!!!