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Old 10-22-2007, 12:02 AM
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

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Opp knows jfish isn't completely retarded and isn't going to shove here with nothing

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Your right, he will probably shove something like 88 or ATs.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:34 AM
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

Call and it's not even close imo.
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Old 10-22-2007, 02:38 AM
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CO has 1021. It`s a little less than 700 for us to call.

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CO folded
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

RR here gets ZERO respect.

and he is shoving AK TT+ and maybe AQ if U repop IMO.

This is a great line to take with KK-AA if the blinds like to squeeze.

Am I the only one to find the fold button here?
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:46 AM
Janis N. Janis N. is offline
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

20% squeeze range considering he is 17% PFR seems way too wide.

I like folding here best, though not overwhelmingly so.

I think raising to $300 and folding to a shove is very close but better than calling and shoving over his cbet on most flops.

The rest of the options I dislike.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:49 AM
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Jesus [censored] christ Janis..

*opens pr0n folder..*
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:52 PM
J. Sawyer J. Sawyer is offline
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

call call calll
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

i hate 4bet/folding to shove
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Old 10-22-2007, 01:14 PM
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trying too hard to play back at a squeezer, 335 fold to a shove is your best option, getting it in pre here is a disaster.

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agree

What do you postflop in these spots McGipper when people just call?
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:00 PM
Melchiades Melchiades is offline
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Default Re: defending vs squeeze: options, options..

The reason why this is a sexy spot to flat with KK+ pre with a squeezemonkey in the blinds is that it looks so suspicious and he will stack off light. So I don't really like reraising with AT here. Call and make a move on many flops seems ok, folding seems even better though.
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