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Old 09-26-2007, 11:09 AM
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Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $5/$10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $1,169.00
BB: $1,000.00
UTG: $2,711.95
MP: $115.00
CO: $3,674.25
hero (BTN): $1,017.00

Preflop: hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $10.00, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $40.00</font>, hero calls $40.00, 2 folds, UTG calls $30.00

Flop: ($135) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">CO bets $130.00</font>, hero calls $130.00, <font color="red">UTG raises to $260.00</font>, CO calls $130.00, <font color="red">hero raises all-in to $977.00</font>, 2 players to act



So, UTG was a donk. He had been showing a lot of crap hands, limping sooted J7 type hands, and had c/r min a few times with crap/air. Love, hate, the play? CO is a reg, but has no history with me. I time banked down to around 15 b4 the shove.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 6 max

hate it. Call and try to suckout. CO most likly has an overpair and will fold it. Minreraiser most likly has TP or better and is never folding it.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 6 max

I hadn't seen UTG c/r min yet with a strong hand, he seemed more likely to call here, as opp. to small c/r, or raise a normal amount.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:35 AM
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Default Re: 5/10 6 max

doesn't seem worth it when you are in such a perfect spot to suck out. UTG is folding rarely here and CO is looking pretty strong.. I doubt you get two folds enough here to make it even nearly as profitable as just calling is.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:37 AM
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I hadn't seen UTG c/r min yet with a strong hand, he seemed more likely to call here, as opp. to small c/r, or raise a normal amount.

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what have you seen him c/r min with lol?
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:40 AM
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Yea, I understand why calling is advantageous, if we think they are both strong. But once CO called I put him on 66-TT type hand, although I think when I shove here I look very strong and JJ+ turns into the same as 99.

I shoved though thinking they were weak, and my shove would look very strong. Coupled with the fact that I was pretty certain UTG was being stupid again, I went with the read and shoved.

If I just call though, and hit on turn, I think a six is the only card that may continue action. I really doubt anyone has an AK type hand, so naturally if the Ace falls I don't see much betting continuing. And I didn't want to face a turn bet which I'd obviously have to fold to, so I thought in this circumstance shoving here would be the best play, most likely folding out both players.

Anyways, I def. see why calling looks to be best, and normally the line I take, but I had to go with my read and try to take the pot down then after I read them for both being weak and a good amount in the pot.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:41 AM
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I hadn't seen UTG c/r min yet with a strong hand, he seemed more likely to call here, as opp. to small c/r, or raise a normal amount.

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what have you seen him c/r min with lol?

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Literally, any two. And they weren't even close to hitting the board when he did it. One time he ended up making 2nd pair on the turn, then turned into 3rd pair on the riv, which he bet for like 75% of the pot, and was called, and was somehow good.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:45 AM
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I hadn't seen UTG c/r min yet with a strong hand, he seemed more likely to call here, as opp. to small c/r, or raise a normal amount.

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what have you seen him c/r min with lol?

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Literally, any two. And they weren't even close to hitting the board when he did it. One time he ended up making 2nd pair on the turn, then turned into 3rd pair on the riv, which he bet for like 75% of the pot, and was called, and was somehow good.

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so what makes you think he's going to fold something similar on the flop?
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:45 AM
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Love it.

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Old 09-26-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 6 max

i like it
infact, i think shoving &gt; calling

but a call is also good
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