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Old 11-24-2007, 10:18 AM
Kimbell175113 Kimbell175113 is offline
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Default Re: Is Clinton as pushy as we think?

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Oh, I can name you many men who, their politics aside, strike me as likable: McCain, Bill Clinton, John Edwards, even cranky old Bob Dole.

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McCain is likeable??

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and Madeleine Albright isn't?

I do agree with the point of the OP, though. I disagree with ton of Clinton's ideas, but I still cringe every time somebody calls her "Shrillary."
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:21 AM
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Hillary impresses me as being pushier than the other women in politics whom you mentioned.
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Old 11-24-2007, 10:51 PM
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I never viewed her as being "pushy" but that's probably a good quality to have in running an administration.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:07 PM
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When I was 9 I realized prime ministers could be men. I think it is about time you people get a female president, though I'm not saying it should be Clinton. Politics is politics and when you disagree with the message the gender of the candidate is of no concern.

I am however saying that for an outsider it does seem you like your country has an enormous gender inequality problem.
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Old 11-24-2007, 11:36 PM
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I am however saying that for an outsider it does seem you like your country has an enormous gender inequality problem.

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The gender inequality is a lot less in the USA than in poker.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: Is Clinton as pushy as we think?

Hillary Clinton is shrill...she sounds like my ex-mother-in-law, only more nagging.

Condi Rice doesn't strike me as cold, and neither does Nanci Pelosi. Hillary Clinton's problem is not that she's a woman...it's that she's Hillary Clinton.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:13 AM
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Default Re: Is Clinton as pushy as we think?

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I am however saying that for an outsider it does seem you like your country has an enormous gender inequality problem.

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The gender inequality is a lot less in the USA than in poker.

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The number of women in politics (especially senate and congress) is very low compared to many other countries.
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: Is Clinton as pushy as we think?

Chance that a woman is lying to you or trying to manipulate you = A

Chance that a politician is lying to you or trying to manipulate you = B

A+B > B
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:07 AM
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Chance that a woman is lying to you or trying to manipulate you = A

Chance that a politician is lying to you or trying to manipulate you = B

A+B > B

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Do we tolerate overt sexism? The exact same thing could be said about a man.
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Old 11-25-2007, 04:24 AM
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men never lie, we're frigging saints. that's why we weren't punished with painful childbirths.
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