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Old 11-10-2007, 06:07 PM
badatmath badatmath is offline
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Default 50NL - Villain mindonk-calls F&T, flush hits river and my ace pairs.

I talked myself into thinking he could have a weaker ace 1 in 3 times, but I think I do this too much with river calls where I'm getting 2:1. Is this river a fold?

Thanks, Matt

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($19.25)
Button ($24.05)
SB ($25.85)
BB ($31.05)
UTG ($31.30)
UTG+1 ($14.90)
MP1 ($80.05)
MP2 ($23)
Hero ($50.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($5.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, UTG calls $3.

Turn: ($12.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, UTG calls $6.50.

River: ($26.75) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $18.3 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $18.30.

Final Pot: $63.35
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Villain mindonk-calls F&T, flush hits river and my ace pair

this could be either a flush or an ace and i call but not fist-pump call
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:47 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Villain mindonk-calls F&T, flush hits river and my ace pair

I hate these minidonk bets. I like the flop raise, but I'm making it 6. This will fold villain out 80% of the time. Once he calls and donks again,I think you should either fold or shove. If he's on the draw, you'll get value that you lose on the river when the flush misses. If he's got a weak ace, then the raise size doesn't matter much (if he called a this raise with a weak ace, he'll probably call a shove). What do you do if river is Kc instead of Ac?
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:49 PM
Grinding2Ecstasy Grinding2Ecstasy is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - Villain mindonk-calls F&T, flush hits river and my ace pair

Wow your bet sizing here seems terrible to me. Usually the min-lead, call a raise is FD, FD+pair or the like. Givin that you are ahead of that range, I don't see why you are raising so small. You didn't give him odds to fold a FD or combo on the flop or turn.

River, in line with his previous donkish betting, indicates a 'zomg I got therez' shove with a flush IMO. Also a small possibility he filled up a boat. In any case I think you dug yourself a ditch on the river where you felt 'priced in' but you should have folded.
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Old 11-10-2007, 06:51 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Villain mindonk-calls F&T, flush hits river and my ace pair

I don't think we can fold the turn here Rapid...not with getting 25-1. I don't mind calling the turn for the sake of potcontrol
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Villain mindonk-calls F&T, flush hits river and my ace pair

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What do you do if river is Kc instead of Ac?

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Any club but the Ace and I am folding. I wanted to fold here too, but I convinced myself he could have hit weaker trips and that he didn't really think about my hand.

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Wow your bet sizing here seems terrible to me. Usually the min-lead, call a raise is FD, FD+pair or the like. Givin that you are ahead of that range, I don't see why you are raising so small. You didn't give him odds to fold a FD or combo on the flop or turn.


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Yeah, in a lot of my posts people have been pointing out that I didn't bet/raise enough, so this is a huge problem for me. Definitely going to change that.

Thanks for the replies.
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Old 11-10-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Villain mindonk-calls F&T, flush hits river and my ace pair

lol @ folding the turn. Don't know what came over me.
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