Baseball managers are vastly overrated

[Dudd]

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Hmmm
Really?

What does my boss do anyway? Just delegates assignments and organizes us, handles talking to other bosses, is approachable and has a knowledge base, designs projects...

Managers make the big decisions. They also make the smaller ones you don't know about.

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Does your boss get paid a couple million bucks a year to do that? Just because their is a small supply of world class baseball players does not meant that there is an even smaller supply of world class baseball managers.

[nutshot2]

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Really, in a world where Joe Girardi can replace Joe Torre, it must mean the job is not so special.

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this... makes no sense. if a manager doesn't mean anything, who cares if he's replacing joe torre?

sigh

[pvn]

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What is it that makes Joe Torre worth $5 million a year, or more?

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smartass answer: Steinbrenner's (or whoever owns the dodgers) willingness to pay that much.

[MyTurn2Raise]

I cannot believe a team hasn't just hired Nate Silver and paid him far below the going rate

[kidcolin]

he'd never accept

edit: and I know you're joking, but this is one of those areas where you sorta see the benefits. Honestly, if Nate or some other stat head came into the clubhouse and started setting lineups, and bringing in closers in the 7th and [censored] like that, ballplayers would flip out.

[kyleb]

Managers are overrated, but you can't put a nerd (no offense, Nate; I fall into this category as well) into the clubhouse and have him running a group of ballplayers who have been indoctrinated to believe a lot of total [censored]. You need someone who can communicate with them on their level to gain any modicum of respect.

Beyond that, yeah, there's not much managers have to do. Hiring any ex-ballplayer who will get respect is good enough; ensuring that they don't do stupid [censored] like bat Juan Pierre leadoff is a bonus.

[vhawk01]

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Really, in a world where Joe Girardi can replace Joe Torre, it must mean the job is not so special.

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this... makes no sense. if a manager doesn't mean anything, who cares if he's replacing joe torre?

sigh

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Ummm...exactly?

[MyTurn2Raise]

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Managers are overrated, but you can't put a nerd (no offense, Nate; I fall into this category as well) into the clubhouse and have him running a group of ballplayers who have been indoctrinated to believe a lot of total [censored]. You need someone who can communicate with them on their level to gain any modicum of respect.

Beyond that, yeah, there's not much managers have to do. Hiring any ex-ballplayer who will get respect is good enough; ensuring that they don't do stupid [censored] like bat Juan Pierre leadoff is a bonus.

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so, we really need a respected ex-ballplayer to talk to the team and a puppet master who knows things and talks to the ex-ballplayer through an ear piece

[PowerRangers]

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Hmmm
Really?

What does my boss do anyway? Just delegates assignments and organizes us, handles talking to other bosses, is approachable and has a knowledge base, designs projects...

Managers make the big decisions. They also make the smaller ones you don't know about.

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Does your boss get paid a couple million bucks a year to do that? Just because their is a small supply of world class baseball players does not meant that there is an even smaller supply of world class baseball managers.

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It's the skill set and knowledge base you pay for, as well as ability to deal well with both players and media. There are not many people who have that experience that can represent the team so well.

[kyleb]

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Managers are overrated, but you can't put a nerd (no offense, Nate; I fall into this category as well) into the clubhouse and have him running a group of ballplayers who have been indoctrinated to believe a lot of total [censored]. You need someone who can communicate with them on their level to gain any modicum of respect.

Beyond that, yeah, there's not much managers have to do. Hiring any ex-ballplayer who will get respect is good enough; ensuring that they don't do stupid [censored] like bat Juan Pierre leadoff is a bonus.

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so, we really need a respected ex-ballplayer to talk to the team and a puppet master who knows things and talks to the ex-ballplayer through an ear piece

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Beane would do this with Geren if it wasn't illegal for the GM to be in the dugout in any way, shape, or form.