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08-24-2007, 04:07 AM
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Black market schools
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08-24-2007, 10:13 AM
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Re: Black market schools
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Down with socialism unless it's called something else, then it's ok [/ QUOTE ] To more accurately represent the view of the general public.
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08-24-2007, 11:33 AM
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Re: Black market schools
First off, its a stretch to say that these schools are black market. You don't exactly see the cops busting down doors and hauling kids to public schools. Second, the evidence that private schools are better is mixed:
[ QUOTE ] A study based on a survey of parent satisfaction published earlier this year by researchers at Columbia University found that relying on private markets can undermine educational equity and universal access. Furthermore, it argues, private schools strive for superior quality only where they compete with government schools; otherwise they offer "lower-quality, second-chance" educations to children without any other option. "There is no reason to assume that private markets will necessarily improve the quality of education," the study concludes. [/ QUOTE ] So the sum total of that article is the anedcotal evidence with a huge selection bias says private schools are better, but a more objective analysis says public schools are a reasonable alternative.
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08-24-2007, 11:42 AM
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Re: Black market schools
God you will try to twist anything iron.
[ QUOTE ] otherwise they offer "lower-quality, second-chance" educations to children without any other option [/ QUOTE ] Some education > than no education, some opportunity to go to school > no opportunity to go to school. [ QUOTE ] but a more objective analysis says public schools are a reasonable alternative. [/ QUOTE ] Ummm no, the part that you quoted says [ QUOTE ] Furthermore, it argues, private schools strive for superior quality only where they compete with government schools [/ QUOTE ]
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#9
08-24-2007, 12:25 PM
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Re: Black market schools
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First off, its a stretch to say that these schools are black market. [/ QUOTE ] If I start a school voluntarily with my own money, teachers work for me voluntarily, and children and their parents choose to involve themselves voluntarily also.. and this school, the teachers AND the children/parents do not conform to state laws/regulation/permits/diplomas/standards/whatever, then it's a clear case of a black market. [ QUOTE ] You don't exactly see the cops busting down doors and hauling kids to public schools. [/ QUOTE ] O RLY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFxZWdw5BCs [ QUOTE ] Second, the evidence that private schools are better is mixed: [ QUOTE ] A study based on a survey of parent satisfaction published earlier this year by researchers at Columbia University found that relying on private markets can undermine educational equity and universal access. Furthermore, it argues, private schools strive for superior quality only where they compete with government schools; otherwise they offer "lower-quality, second-chance" educations to children without any other option. "There is no reason to assume that private markets will necessarily improve the quality of education," the study concludes. [/ QUOTE ] So the sum total of that article is the anedcotal evidence with a huge selection bias says private schools are better, but a more objective analysis says public schools are a reasonable alternative. [/ QUOTE ] Is it voluntary?
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08-24-2007, 12:39 PM
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Re: Black market schools
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First off, its a stretch to say that these schools are black market. You don't exactly see the cops busting down doors and hauling kids to public schools. Second, the evidence that private schools are better is mixed: [ QUOTE ] A study based on a survey of parent satisfaction published earlier this year by researchers at Columbia University found that relying on private markets can undermine educational equity and universal access. Furthermore, it argues, private schools strive for superior quality only where they compete with government schools; otherwise they offer "lower-quality, second-chance" educations to children without any other option. "There is no reason to assume that private markets will necessarily improve the quality of education," the study concludes. [/ QUOTE ] So the sum total of that article is the anedcotal evidence with a huge selection bias says private schools are better, but a more objective analysis says public schools are a reasonable alternative. [/ QUOTE ] The only valid point you make is that the few private schools that cater to kids kicked out of the public school system for behavior issues offer less educational value than public schools. Weird, bunch of delinquents dont learn too well. I see nothing that says that private schools that compete for the same market as other private schools offer less than a stellar education. DUCY this would work if every school was private?
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