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Old 07-25-2007, 01:39 AM
JJH3984 JJH3984 is offline
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Default 1/2 FT A8s Preflop and River

Limper is 32/0/.3 after about 50 hands
Threebettor is 38/15/5 over 150


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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 12.75 BB
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:52 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 FT A8s Preflop and River

Nice hand, sir.
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 FT A8s Preflop and River

PF is pretty loose. Flop I would check raise after MP1 calls. River is an easy call with the straight.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:30 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 FT A8s Preflop and River

Only questionable street is flop IMO.

I'd say the 3 bettor is never folding a better hand if you check/raise the flop, and we don't really want him 3 betting and knocking the middle guy out. We can also get in a sweet turn check/raise if we hit. I guess the flop isn't questionable.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:32 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 FT A8s Preflop and River

i like it as played.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:55 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 FT A8s Preflop and River

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PF is pretty loose. Flop I would check raise after MP1 calls. River is an easy call with the straight.

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Is river raise out of question? I would raise here =D *spew master talking here*
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:57 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 FT A8s Preflop and River

can u told me guys why raise river is bad?
we afraid of FH that limper hit or bigger str8?
Or we just dont wanna loose 3betor big bet.
I really dont think we are here behind even with so passive player like 0.3 AF (i think we can split this pot the worse)
Is limper slowplay quads? dont think so.
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 FT A8s Preflop and River

A 32/0/.3 is rarely betting this river without at least a chopping hand, so go for the overcall.
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 FT A8s Preflop and River

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A 32/0/.3 is rarely betting this river without at least a chopping hand, so go for the overcall.

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Ok, so he called pf 3bet with 44-66. Your right, we might be seriously behind here.. ..still my nature tells me to raise here... gotta fix these leaks =/.
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: 1/2 FT A8s Preflop and River

heads up a raise is fine

there's someone to act behind us though

if we raise, and are ahead/chopping, they fold their bad hand, and we split the pot with the first guy.

if we raise, and are behind, they fold their bad hand and we get 3bet by the first guy who has us beat.

if we call, and are ahead/chopping, there's a decent chance the guy behind us will call one more with his bad hand, so we either gain an extra bet to chop up, or increase the whole pot for ourselves.

if we call, and are behind, it doesn't matter what the guy behind us does, and we avoid getting 3bet if we raise -- which means putting too much money in on the river.
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