Flush Draw 101

[Casper05]

flop lead is better if the CO raised and not UTG because our FE is so much greater...and when you dont have a loose/bad player to act, no?

[Duecey Davis]

I like the call with 2 players for a discount and closing out the betting, maybe not w/ A6, now you have str8 w/ other possibilities. Check flop, c/r if Btn folds. I wouldn't necessarily fold to turn miss, you can double through each player (almost) as long as you close out betting, implied odds. Reevaluate turn.

[Duecey Davis]

we want 3 way action for the right odds, we don't want pfr to fold, and he has been leading w/ f conbet

[whoa_wtf]

pf is meh, and your c/r is getting called by all sorts of [censored] because of the board.

call and hope the other guy hits his hearts on the turn too

[FishSticks]

If a c/r gets called by tons of marginal stuff here, isn't potting a brick turn going to fold tons out then win a sweet pot?

[Speedlimits]

lead is standard.

[Casper05]

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lead is standard.

[/ QUOTE ] so that nitty UTG raiser can push the donk out of the pot with his raise? Are you b3b-ing the flop? c/r is much better than lead vs these villains imo.

[Kermit]

FS,

Preflop is fine. A squeeze is okay too if UTG is loose enough. i typically dont like to squeeze an UTG raise unless i know the player has a loose enough range preflop and will say "zomg i raise UTG and he is repopping from the blinds, he MUST have me in bad shape.

on the flop i dont hate an aggressive line (b3b). the trouble is you might not get raised on this scary ass flop, so you might want to even fire a second bet on the turn if you only get called in one spot.

checking is fine too. some players are hesitant to c-bet flops like this. you might get a free look at another card or if UTG c bets the btn might tag along giving you an even better price on your draw.

[Speedlimits]

[ QUOTE ]
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lead is standard.

[/ QUOTE ] so that nitty UTG raiser can push the donk out of the pot with his raise? Are you b3b-ing the flop? c/r is much better than lead vs these villains imo.

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25 hand sample and you call UTG raiser nitty? He's unknown. c/r is bad here. With both villians being relatively unknown you should not cr. Haven't you read dbitel's pooh-bah post?

[NYTyler]

sorry hate to break the flow of the discussion here but could not find it in the abbreviations, Nitty means....