can i fold this? i really want to

schwza · #1 04-29-2007, 07:12 PM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($93.30)
BB ($453.20)
UTG ($380)
MP ($504.60)
Hero ($616.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $12, Hero calls $12, 1 fold, BB calls $8.

Flop: ($38) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($38) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $24, MP calls $24, Hero calls $24.

River: ($110) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB bets $40, MP folds, hero?

villain is TheGrrrr... he's around 18/13 and i think he's pretty straightforward. i really don't see anything i beat except maybe A6.

snakekilla88 · #2 04-29-2007, 07:15 PM

bet the flop

Jay Riall · #3 04-29-2007, 07:16 PM

Standard, I like a river fold, but its close. Flop check is fine.

FionnMac · #4 04-29-2007, 07:19 PM

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bet the flop

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Why on earth would we want to do that? And please don't say 'for info'...

snakekilla88 · #5 04-29-2007, 07:23 PM

for info

rand · #6 04-29-2007, 07:25 PM

id prolly bet flop so you dont have this problem, as played id raise turn unless you think hes gonna shove but if you just call you gotta fold this river

snakekilla88 · #7 04-29-2007, 07:28 PM

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Flop check is fine, but I still would bet here more then I check. I dont see how betting the flop could be that bad so maybe you could expand on why you oppose it so much.

As played I think river is really close, and I would lean towards folding.

MorningAfter · #8 04-29-2007, 07:47 PM

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bet the flop

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for info

Redd · #9 04-29-2007, 07:49 PM

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bet the flop

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Why on earth would we want to do that? And please don't say 'for info'...

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I'd bet the flop because it's more profitable to get them to correctly fold than give a free card when I'm ahead. And inducing a bluff on later streets sucks because we can't always call it.

Jay Riall · #10 04-29-2007, 07:51 PM

They have a max. of 5 outs if behind, and checking is also going to be able to extract more from mid pocketpairs and Jx etc.