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Old 09-27-2006, 10:10 AM
Jehi Jehi is offline
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Default p0000sh preflop with QQ? 100NL 6max

Villain here is about 23/18 over ~500 hands. I didn't have much reads on him but I had a strong feeling that he's able to do that reraise without AA/KK and might be squeezing here. My image was pretty tight, probably something like 19/14 on this table. What would you do?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($104.08)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($139.80)</font>
MP ($115.25)
CO ($34.24)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($100)</font>
SB ($46.88)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, MP calls $4, CO calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero ??
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:16 AM
nelly99 nelly99 is offline
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Default Re: p0000sh preflop with QQ? 100NL 6max

I think a push it fine, I have seen these kind of villians make this play with AQ here before and I think there are more hands that he would do this with than not do this with that we are ahead of
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: p0000sh preflop with QQ? 100NL 6max

Tough one. I hate having 2 people in the middle here which is why the ole squeeeeeze is so effective.

I push with your read, but I think its close.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:48 AM
Claunchy Claunchy is offline
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Default Re: p0000sh preflop with QQ? 100NL 6max

I dunno about a push here. While he might be reraising light, I don't think he would ever call a push with &lt;JJ, or really even AK. I would call and get it in on a reasonable flop.
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:52 AM
Jehi Jehi is offline
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Default Re: p0000sh preflop with QQ? 100NL 6max

if I just call and flop comes with an ugly A/K I might end up folding the best hand...?
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Old 09-27-2006, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: p0000sh preflop with QQ? 100NL 6max

If you push, you are only getting called by KK/AA and maybe AKs given that villain and your image.
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: p0000sh preflop with QQ? 100NL 6max

Well, this is really why the squeeze is so powerful. Makes me want to use it more.
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:02 PM
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Default Re: p0000sh preflop with QQ? 100NL 6max

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If you push, you are only getting called by KK/AA and maybe AKs given that villain and your image.

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you lose ~$43 the times you are called assuming his range is KK+, AKs

you win $28 the times its picked up preflop

AA, KK, AKs = 16combos

so breakeven is if he 3bets with 25combos that aren't the above

AKo=12
JJ=6
TT=6
AQ=16

maybe more, maybe a little less
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:05 PM
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Default Re: p0000sh preflop with QQ? 100NL 6max

And if he calls and plays poker after the flop?
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Old 09-27-2006, 12:24 PM
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Default Re: p0000sh preflop with QQ? 100NL 6max

This is a math problem. If you assume he reraises with like 6% of hands and only calls with AA/KK you can compute the EV of shoving here pretty easily.
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