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Old 09-03-2007, 08:05 PM
youngmachetes youngmachetes is offline
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Default NL25 turned trips no kicker, villain shoves?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $24.75
BB: $25.00
UTG: $34.35
MP: $16.20
CO: $32.10
Hero (BTN): $25.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $1.25</font>, SB calls $1.15, BB folds, UTG calls $1.00

Flop: ($4) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $3.00</font>, SB folds, UTG calls $3.00

Turn: ($10) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7.50</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $30.10</font>


villain is unknown.
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: NL25 turned trips no kicker, villain shoves?

Villain check raising on the turn suggests a monster hand...I'd put him on AQ, QQ or 55 (more likely if he open limps then calls your raise preflop).

Or he could have Ax with a better kicker than yours. Its a tough decision, but it looks like a fold
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:19 PM
Rafpig Rafpig is offline
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Default Re: NL25 turned trips no kicker, villain shoves?

I think this is a clear fold. What could you be beating?
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: NL25 turned trips no kicker, villain shoves?

Yeah its not easy to lay it down. Also you have half your stack already in the pot. This is a spot where I think its ok to fold but if I were playing the hand I would call. Saying and doing is very different. It looks very much like A5 or 55.
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Old 09-03-2007, 08:43 PM
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Default Re: NL25 turned trips no kicker, villain shoves?

Look at it this way, would you stack off here with tpnk? On this board your hand has the same relative hand strength as tpnk. That ace didnīt improve your hand one bit, if you were behind you are still behind. Trip aces no kicker is about the suckiest "good hand" to stack off with.
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:10 PM
youngmachetes youngmachetes is offline
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Default Re: NL25 turned trips no kicker, villain shoves?

no one thinks villain can have an aggressively played draw here? although, i agree villains range is more than likely weighted toward bigger made hands than mine. i stacked off and didn't feel good about it. villain showed ATo, it held.
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Old 09-03-2007, 10:22 PM
Supwithbates Supwithbates is offline
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Default Re: NL25 turned trips no kicker, villain shoves?

Either check behind on the flop or check behind on the turn unless villain is a complete nutcase
as played easy fold to the c/r he has a draw here like never. The fact that you are even including that as part of his range is a pretty big leak. Remember this rule for uNL: Big pot, big hand. Opponents are not that aggressive. Betting into two opponents on a flop is generally a strong hand, and continuing on the turn is pretty much committing yourself to the pot, so it's generally a VERY strong hand. Your opponent is not shoving into that with nothing ever.

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