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Old 10-29-2007, 08:21 PM
cjk73 cjk73 is offline
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Default Re: 10NL: Blind Defense

I think the reply about not worrying has a lot to do with the concept of "know thy competition". In NL10 you will encounter less blind steals on average then say at NL100. This means that appearent steals will turn out to be legitimate hands a greater % of the time thus potentially making blind defense -ev. Of course if you have a solid read that THIS opponent is stealing (need some evidence) then it is just as important, imo.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:37 PM
Johnes Benjamin Johnes Benjamin is offline
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Default Re: 10NL: Blind Defense

I think the "not important" part was referring not only to the fact that people steal less but that there are plenty of other edges you can easily get, whereas at higher levels you have to count on smaller things like stealing blinds.
Anyway, this doesn't really affect things and you are totally right that it is important to understand blind stealing.

I definitely think 3betting pre is much better. The way you played it, you are still letting him have control of the hand. you will both miss the flop quite often and you want to be the one to take it down with a cbet.

How often do you lead in such a situation? If I call and hit, my default would be to check/raise.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:12 PM
Johnes Benjamin Johnes Benjamin is offline
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Default Re: 10NL: Blind Defense

nice link, btw. i'll be looking over that later
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:58 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: Blind Defense

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I think the "not important" part was referring not only to the fact that people steal less but that there are plenty of other edges you can easily get, whereas at higher levels you have to count on smaller things like stealing blinds.
Anyway, this doesn't really affect things and you are totally right that it is important to understand blind stealing.

I definitely think 3betting pre is much better. The way you played it, you are still letting him have control of the hand. you will both miss the flop quite often and you want to be the one to take it down with a cbet.

How often do you lead in such a situation? If I call and hit, my default would be to check/raise.

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i'll often lead into them on the flop. for some goofy reasoning i'd rather play small pots by just calling and not risking a reraise. big cards i'll 3bet more often but mostly i'm looking to call the steal and see what develops.

this particular villain had been aggro as a rule so i opted to let him bluff off to me. the rereaise on the turn caught my eye but i was committed to calling and reloading if necessary knowing he knew i'd go to the felt with him.

it worked out. meh.

i was actually more curious if anyone would pick the turn line apart moreso than get into a debate on the worthiness of stealing at NL10.

yeah it's a great link and has taken my virtually no stealing ass to a higher level. me thinks my winrate is a direct reflection of my steal success (.6bb/hand avg)

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