defending vs squeeze: options, options..

[Triumph36]

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why even ask if youre gonna disagree/get tilted when lots of posters (amongst them pretty well respected ones) advocate another line you and jones would take?

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youre right, it was just the tone of several responses. i agree with lefort, djsensei and others regarding this hand. i just think that a lot of the discussion is pretty irrelevant and more focused on "no matter what you do, any good player will outplay you" sort of thing.

but ya youre right.

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I don't think that was necessarily the tack of the discussion. I don't think a lot of players can 5 bet shove air - people saying so are foolish. While backraises are not often monsters, they are not often air either.

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Jfish,
4betting here just looks so suspicious. I think its a call or fold and either is fine.

[ogdundar]

Call, shove any flop because the rest of the options suck. A 4-bet now gets looked up very easily by the hands you want to fold out (AQ+,TT-QQ). You might coldcall AA in these spots sometimes, but untill he has seen you do it, you are going to burn money. Calling is fine, I like folding best.

[higHstaKesOwneR]

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imo raising so little that were not committed is suspicious as hell.
[x] call and shove a lot postflop.

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i 4bet very small quite often, it fits fine w/ my gameplan i think.

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how do you play KK/AA here in this spot?
i guess also 4bet small mostly?

[MATT111]

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trying too hard to play back at a squeezer, 335 fold to a shove is your best option, getting it in pre here is a disaster.

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This is very wrong.

[Esuom]

call, play poker on the flop if you really feel the need to play back here, you get zero respect. I remember a certain hand where I CC AA and u squeeze, i call the reraise and u know the rest.

[Ship Ship McGipp]

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trying too hard to play back at a squeezer, 335 fold to a shove is your best option, getting it in pre here is a disaster.

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This is very wrong.

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ok.

except no, lol.

[danjohncochane]

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trying too hard to play back at a squeezer, 335 fold to a shove is your best option, getting it in pre here is a disaster.

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This is very wrong.

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ok.

except no, lol.

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I agree with ship ship, idk either how it is very wrong.

But it goes well with my game because i always do a small 4bet with monsters and medium hands if i think someone is 3betting light.

Explain how this is very wrong??

[dd323]

Like with most of these polls, I didn't know what to pick, because I sometimes fold here, if I decide its time to play back, I either 4-bet small and fold to a push, or call pre, and then depending on the player and the flop either push a ton of flops, or push raise ace or ten for value (and be happier about a t).

[Rampage_Jackson]

How the hell is fold not an option?