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Old 04-14-2006, 10:43 PM
G_Dollaz G_Dollaz is offline
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we're on the button w/ suited AJ, a 22/18 opens from ep, a 22/12 cold calls from mp.... what are we doing here?
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Old 04-14-2006, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: quick preflop checkup

i think this depends on the blinds and if there is a chance that we can win this UI because EP is weak/tight postflop...but in most circumstances i think this is an easy fold...
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:04 PM
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Default Re: quick preflop checkup

I like a call here. An 18 PFR's range will not have us in that bad shape, plus with the MP cold-caller padding the pot (he can't have us dominated or he'd be 3-betting -- so at best he has KQs or a small PP) and our position (yay the button!) then I think we should play this hand.
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: quick preflop checkup

call or 3bet for me depending on what i've shown down recently
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: quick preflop checkup

Let's play a 4 or 5 way pot with me on the button and 10 SB in the pot. Call.
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Old 04-15-2006, 02:53 PM
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Default Re: quick preflop checkup

Agreed. I'm inclined to cold call 2 hands here. AJs and KQs. Maybe a few others(JTs,QJs) if I'm sure if I'm sure the blinds will come along.

Everything else is finding a 3bet or muck.
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Old 04-15-2006, 03:42 PM
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Agreed. I'm inclined to cold call 2 hands here. AJs and KQs. Maybe a few others(JTs,QJs) if I'm sure if I'm sure the blinds will come along.

Everything else is finding a 3bet or muck.

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I'm calling pocket pairs here.
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Old 04-15-2006, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: quick preflop checkup

i agree it is a call (for me, because it is suited, unsuited I fold), but I do think domination is definitely an issue, because a lot of MP will cc with AQ off
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Old 04-16-2006, 03:41 PM
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i agree it is a call (for me, because it is suited, unsuited I fold), but I do think domination is definitely an issue, because a lot of MP will cc with AQ off

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I don't think someone with a PFR of 12 is cold-calling AQo. My PFR is around 10, and I 3-bet AQ if I'm going to play it.
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Old 04-17-2006, 02:46 AM
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i think this depends on the blinds and if there is a chance that we can win this UI because EP is weak/tight postflop...but in most circumstances i think this is an easy fold...

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I'm 3-betting or coldcalling this basically all the time. If the blinds are decent players, I wouldn't mind a 3-bet at all. If they're horrible loosies who play badly postflop but don't like calling 2 preflop, then I'd coldcall. With a TAG player in the BB I'm very inclined to 3-bet.

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