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08-03-2007, 02:08 AM
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QQ agains UTG raise+shove, bubble time 4/180
Min-raiser has been pretty standard nothin special ethier way. Shover has been shoving/folding mostly, couple of calls +Check/folds on the flop. I feel I can pretty much outplay the table. Do we call, shove, fold? Is it worth risking all our chips against AK and a smaller pairish type situation?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) UTG+1 (t7355) MP1 (t7858) MP2 (t12379) CO (t9300) Button (t8730) Hero (t13803) BB (t14230) UTG (t27939) Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1200</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t9250</font>, hero does what here? 
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#4
08-03-2007, 02:55 AM
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Re: QQ agains UTG raise+shove, bubble time 4/180
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[ QUOTE ] Is it worth risking all our chips against AK and a smaller pairish type situation? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. [/ QUOTE ] Suppose maybe you could explain? Against AK alone we are only a small favorite, throw in a pair and I'm pretty sure we fall below 50 percent to win.
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#5
08-03-2007, 03:04 AM
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Re: QQ agains UTG raise+shove, bubble time 4/180
Certainly seems like you are getting the odds, you are still near 45% against AK and an underpair (if that is indeed what they have) and you will be getting 2 to 1 if UTG calls or some dead money in the pot in a race where you are a slight favorite if UTG folds.
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#6
08-03-2007, 03:11 AM
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Re: QQ agains UTG raise+shove, bubble time 4/180
I just somehow think it's wrong to take a less then a coinflip(assuming the shover doesnt wake up with a cooler like KK or AA) when I still have plenty of chips.
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#7
08-03-2007, 03:12 AM
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Re: QQ agains UTG raise+shove, bubble time 4/180
Very easy shove. UTG's range should be pretty wide here given his stacksize and the apporoaching bubble. CO is probably aware of this even if he bad, even if he isn't aware of this, I'd say his range is 99+, AQ+. Get it in and be happy.
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#8
08-03-2007, 03:14 AM
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Re: QQ agains UTG raise+shove, bubble time 4/180
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I just somehow think it's wrong to take a less then a coinflip(assuming the shover doesnt wake up with a cooler like KK or AA) when I still have plenty of chips. [/ QUOTE ] Nonono you'll have CO dominated so often here you have to get it in.
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#9
08-03-2007, 03:18 AM
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Re: QQ agains UTG raise+shove, bubble time 4/180
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Is it worth risking all our chips against AK and a smaller pairish type situation? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. [/ QUOTE ] Suppose maybe you could explain? Against AK alone we are only a small favorite, throw in a pair and I'm pretty sure we fall below 50 percent to win. [/ QUOTE ] You'd be crazy to fold to such enormous pot odds. You only have 23x the bb and have to gamble at some point to get a big stack. By your logic, you'd also fold pocket aces here if half the table moved in.
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#10
08-03-2007, 03:25 AM
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Re: QQ agains UTG raise+shove, bubble time 4/180
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[ QUOTE ] I just somehow think it's wrong to take a less then a coinflip(assuming the shover doesnt wake up with a cooler like KK or AA) when I still have plenty of chips. [/ QUOTE ] Nonono you'll have CO dominated so often here you have to get it in. [/ QUOTE ] I really don't understand this, I dont see how risking 7K(UTG) +2K(CO) because I might be ahead but yet behind to win the whole hand. Even if CO has 22 I still only profit 2K after losing 7 if I can't beat UTG. so we are -5K if I can't beat CO i'm -9K, so unless I can win both which I'm not a favorite to do how is it a good thing?
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