**Official uNL Microbrew thread: July PT 2(LC/NC)**

[creamfillin]

SB almost has neutral EV there

[Learning]

Yeah, so over the past couple of sessions I've been finishing up on plugging leaks etc. What I've found is that I'm cbetting something like 75% of the time, and a good amount of the time people are calling in spots where I've got air, checking the turn, and betting river. I know double barreling is obvious spew, but I don't think I'm getting floated or anything here.

But basically I can be up around 2 BI and then end with one souly due to 5-7 cbets that didn't work. Standard or possible leak?

[WillS]

...So you're saying this is good play? lol

What range is he good against? Pushing against the BB who had already 3 bet. I'm confused.

I'm pretty sure he's not even near EV neutral up against these two hands. He's still only 32% to win and had only invested 1.25$ plus everytime he wins he is losing rake also. I'd have to calculate it though.

[tehDiceman]

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah, so over the past couple of sessions I've been finishing up on plugging leaks etc. What I've found is that I'm cbetting something like 75% of the time, and a good amount of the time people are calling in spots where I've got air, checking the turn, and betting river. I know double barreling is obvious spew, but I don't think I'm getting floated or anything here.

But basically I can be up around 2 BI and then end with one souly due to 5-7 cbets that didn't work. Standard or possible leak?

[/ QUOTE ]

i want to say standard cause i see the check/call, check, bet line tons of times.

but if this is a leak, let me know so i can plug it. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] weird part is sometimes i call them down and most of the time it is some piece of the flop or a decent PP.

[WillS]

Guys. Is there any way you can review your cbetting in pokertracker? I think I need to look at mine.

[Learning]

[ QUOTE ]
Guys. Is there any way you can review your cbetting in pokertracker? I think I need to look at mine.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah.

Go to the filters tab and hit the following:

Vol. Money in Pot -> Put Money In
Pre-Flop Raise -> Any Raise
Action on Flop -> Bet

[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Edit: The only downside to this is it's going to show both the hands where you're betting for value and not necessarily "cbetting" to get him off the hand.

[vixticator]

[ QUOTE ]
What I've found is that I'm cbetting something like 75% of the time, and a good amount of the time people are calling in spots where I've got air, checking the turn, and betting river.

[/ QUOTE ]That happens a ton. Against passive players I think you can safely assume they have something. For some reason I want to raise river against aggressive players when they do this. I mean, I don't do it. But, really want to. Busted draws just bluffing a lot. Sometimes I think they even set up to bet river knowing you are done with the hand.

I don't know how to play against people who fold to c-bet 20% in position but always bet when you check to them. Right now I am just value betting and check/folding with a few check/raises thrown in for good measure. Hard to play against maniac types that are aware of position, these players are super rare though.

[tehDiceman]

what a sweet semi thin call me thinks.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $8.21
BB: $10.00
UTG: $14.17
Hero (BTN): $10.22

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG calls $0.05, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.25</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.57) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.40</font>, UTG calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.37) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.37) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $0.50</font>, Hero calls $0.50

Pot Size: $2.37 ($0.10 Rake)

UTG had T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-$1.15)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and WON (+$1.12)


and another


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $16.26
Hero (BB): $12.15
UTG: $6.39
CO: $6.30
BTN: $9.69

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
2 folds, BTN calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.30</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.05</font>, Hero calls $0.05

River: ($0.75) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.55</font>, Hero calls $0.55

Pot Size: $1.85 ($0.05 Rake)

SB had 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Threes) and LOST (-$0.90)
Hero had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Threes) and WON (+$0.90)


gogogo ship it

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $9.95
BB: $3.13
UTG: $4.18
MP: $4.45
CO: $1.57
BTN: $5.84

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $0.20</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.70</font>, BB folds, CO calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.45) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.90</font>, CO calls all-in for $0.87
Uncalled bet of $0.03 returned to Hero

Turn: ($3.19) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($3.19) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $3.19 ($0.15 Rake)

CO had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$1.57)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Queens and Nines) and WON (+$1.47)


serious cooler for villian but serves him right for squeezing me. i was running 20/16 at the table so he should have known better.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $12.26
BB: $7.12
Hero (UTG): $11.59
BTN: $8.21

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $0.20</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $0.35</font>, SB folds, BB calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.15

Flop: ($1.07) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.95</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $7.86</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $6.91

Turn: ($16.79) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($16.79) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $16.79 ($0.80 Rake)

BTN had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Eights) and LOST (-$8.21)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Queens) and WON (+$7.78)



villian is clearly an expert.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $10.77
BB: $13.15
UTG: $3.53
CO: $3.48
Hero (BTN): $9.14

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.05, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.25</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.57) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $0.40</font>, CO calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.37) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.37) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $1.00</font>, Hero calls $1.00

Pot Size: $3.37 ($0.15 Rake)

CO had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON (+$1.57)
Hero had 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$1.65)


where do these people learn how to play?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.02/$0.05 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $6.17
BB: $10.83
UTG: $9.72
MP: $2.33
CO: $4.90
Hero (BTN): $9.19

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.05, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.25</font>, SB calls $0.23, BB folds, CO calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.80) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">CO bets $0.30</font>, Hero calls $0.30, SB folds

Turn: ($1.40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $0.35</font>, Hero calls $0.35

River: ($2.10) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $0.35</font>, Hero calls $0.35

Pot Size: $2.80 ($0.10 Rake)

CO had 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Tens and Eights) and WON (+$1.45)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$1.25)

[Ben Young]

My first royal
[img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.01/$0.02 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $9.37
Hero (BB): $5.00
UTG: $3.08
CO: $1.75
BTN: $1.62

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, BTN folds, SB calls $0.01, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.14</font>, UTG calls $0.12, CO calls $0.12, SB calls $0.12
Uncalled bet of $0.00 returned to Hero

Flop: ($0.56) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $0.36</font>, Hero calls $0.36, UTG calls $0.36, CO folds

Turn: ($1.64) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.20</font>, UTG calls $1.20, SB folds

River: ($4.04) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $3.30</font>, UTG folds

Pot Size: $7.34 ($0.15 Rake)

[vixticator]

[ QUOTE ]
My first royal

[/ QUOTE ]NH. I have only had one in Omaha. They didn't call me either. Bleh.