Nl 100 oddly played JJ hand

luckybacon · #1 12-24-2006, 07:37 PM

Villain 43/20/6 over small sample on the session. No reads except his timing on his bets were very fast. I thought of leading on the flop but im trying to mix my play up and not the flop I wanted to see.
I assume if i call him down to the river i have to call there, but should i have found a fold. His betting speed made me think he was bluffing

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($136.60)
CO ($56.10)
Button ($63.60)
SB ($106)
Hero ($128.95)
UTG ($153.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, CO raises to $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, Hero raises to $13, CO calls $9, SB folds.

Flop: ($30) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $9, Hero calls $9.

Turn: ($48) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $15, Hero calls $15.

River: ($78) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $19.1 (All-In), Hero ???

JonnyCosMo · #2 12-24-2006, 07:49 PM

When you 3 bet, like 99% of the time you should follow it up with a bet. "Mixing it up" is a bad excuse not to c-bet this flop. ESPECIALLY if your gonna check-call down on all streets.

Barrin6 · #3 12-24-2006, 08:05 PM

Check/fold.

Such an ugly flop. If you c-bet here for ~$20 and he pushes for ~25 you really don't have the odds for calling since your OESD aren't clean because of the flush draw.

If he's betting here, you are only beating a pair of tens.

luckybacon · #4 12-24-2006, 08:08 PM

what about his bet sizing? 9 and 13 into much larger pots? I could have found a check fold with a big flop bet but it seemed he was stabbing with his small bets

Kilillan · #5 12-24-2006, 08:18 PM

wtf is with your 3-bet pre

there's a raise a call and you're OOP. Pump that [censored] up

kapw7 · #6 12-24-2006, 08:22 PM

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Check/fold.

Such an ugly flop. If you c-bet here for ~$20 and he pushes for ~25 you really don't have the odds for calling since your OESD aren't clean because of the flush draw.

If he's betting here, you are only beating a pair of tens.

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Why not? We need 23ish equity to call his AI. Against a LAGy short stacked villain it's not impossible.

luckybacon · #7 12-24-2006, 08:29 PM

Im sure i didnt play the hand optimal here, but does the bet sizing not seem odd to anyone else. Like, he senses im weak from my check, so he will just bet a little to get me to fold?

The White Rabbit · #8 12-24-2006, 09:33 PM

Make it $18 preflop, c/f this flop. I think it isn't very likely he's bluffing here, he's betting to suck you in.
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When you 3 bet, like 99% of the time you should follow it up with a bet. "Mixing it up" is a bad excuse not to c-bet this flop. ESPECIALLY if your gonna check-call down on all streets.

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uh, no.

GooseHinson · #9 12-24-2006, 09:39 PM

I make it 16 preflop and because of his stack make a standard c-bet of ~30. If he pushes it's like 10 more and an easy call (or just set him in on the flop). I am sure he folds to more then half of the c-bets, thus making it a profitable play. We also still have about 20-30% equity if he calls (maybe more if he has a lower pair with a heart).