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Old 08-03-2006, 06:32 PM
axioma axioma is offline
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Default good double-barrel semi? (600NL).

i have been raising and cbetting a lot at the table.

villain is: 60/0! over 128 hands.

can he fold this turn ever? i have a gazillion outs against his range.


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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $3/$6
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $688
CO: $997.09
Button: $1217.50
Hero: $594
BB: $267.53

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $21</font>, BB calls, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($63, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $55</font>, BB calls, CO folds.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($173, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $140</font>, BB calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($453, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $50</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB calls all-in $48.53</font>.
Uncalled bets: $1.47 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: $550.06
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Old 08-03-2006, 06:45 PM
Parlay Slow Parlay Slow is offline
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Default Re: good double-barrel semi? (600NL).

what else would you possibly do?
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Old 08-03-2006, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: good double-barrel semi? (600NL).

Just push the turn.
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Old 08-03-2006, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: good double-barrel semi? (600NL).

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what else would you possibly do?

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i considered C/Cing. tell me why this is horrible.
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:26 PM
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Default Re: good double-barrel semi? (600NL).

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what else would you possibly do?

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i considered C/Cing. tell me why this is horrible.

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uh, are you gonna check fold if you miss?
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: good double-barrel semi? (600NL).

what makes you think he'll fold to your turn bet if he likes his hand? And is he calling you here with no pair? Doubtful on both cases, methinks... I may well check the turn and hope to improve/check it down against such a passive player rather than get it all in there with ace high.
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Old 08-03-2006, 07:34 PM
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Default Re: good double-barrel semi? (600NL).

what makes you think that you don't just got him STONE BEAT
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:46 AM
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Default Re: good double-barrel semi? (600NL).

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what makes you think he'll fold to your turn bet if he likes his hand? And is he calling you here with no pair? Doubtful on both cases, methinks... I may well check the turn and hope to improve/check it down against such a passive player rather than get it all in there with ace high.

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exactly.

i think its quite likely this opponent:

a) will call my turn bet with any pair, any draw.
b) is unlikely to bluff the turn if checked to.
c) if he has a hand, will either bet small or quite likely check it through.

given these assumptions, betting the turn starts to look less than great.
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:47 AM
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what makes you think that you don't just got him STONE BEAT

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are you serious?
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Old 08-04-2006, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: good double-barrel semi? (600NL).

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what makes you think that you don't just got him STONE BEAT

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are you serious?

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"Villian is 60/0".

You don't think this is the type of guy that could show up on the turn without a pair? You don't get dealt pockets 60% of the time.
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