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Old 11-30-2007, 06:38 AM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

ever.

villain 33/11/0 after 20 hands

c/f river? c/c?

Party Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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CO: $47.54
BTN: $260.86
Hero (SB): $97.50
BB: $125.03
UTG: $104.68
MP: $92.78

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, BTN calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $4

Flop: ($11) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, BTN calls $8

Turn: ($27) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $18</font>, BTN calls $18

River: ($63) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $40</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $229.86 and is All-In</font>, Hero calls $26.50 and is All-In
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:40 AM
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Default Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

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c/f river



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Old 11-30-2007, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

cmon u just ended up with top set, i'd bet 40$ or so for value like you
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

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cmon u just ended up with top set, i'd bet 40$ or so for value like you

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i doubt he would suddenly raise anything else flush though but not disciplined enough to b/f
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Old 11-30-2007, 06:56 AM
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Default Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

you don't have enough to bet/fold. I probably c/c...well check at least, then see what he does. Not really sure how I'd respond.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

Bet more on the turn? I'd make it $23 there. Not sure what is best on the river though, I hate folding and a hate shoving so I think I check/call. The problem with c/c though is this guy isn't going to be bluffing so you don't get value from stuff you beat. Hmmm, maybe bet a really small amount and hope he doesn't raise a right lot. These passive post flop guys don't normally make big raises so if you bet $5 he may just hit raise and you can get to SD for $10 which would be good here imo.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:23 AM
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Default Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

bet bigger on turn and c/c a reasonable bet on river
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:24 AM
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Default Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

lol I really hope some leveling is going on here.

Edit: in case there is no leveling, I am referring to the posts about slowing down anywhere... c/c'ing top set vs a player with AF 0 is so ugly just beyond terrible. Such a low AF means he'd only bet the nuts and call about anything else. c/c would make it so that he checks behind every worse hand so you get no value, and he bets when you are beat and then you call. Great way to lose the maximum and win the minimum.
c/f would be already better, but that is ugly, horrible and terrible as well. Openshoving is the only way to go.

My line would be $10 on flop, $30 on turn, shove river.
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:25 AM
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Default Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

easy c/f imo
check calling is the worst of bet/calling c/fing and bet folding i think
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: like i said in previous post, i dont fold KK

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lol I really hope some leveling is going on here.

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Is that aimed at me?

I was serious! Are you in the shoving camp?

The K is such a horrible card because it makes our hand look so much better but it really doesn't change a lot. If villian had a set he is raising flop or turn 90% of the time, same with 2pr. He's played this so so much like a FD that getting to SD cheap as possible has to be the best move. How often do you see a 0AF guy shove? Super rare, we all know the minraise is the king of all moves so bet $5, let him minraise or get trixy and make it $15 so we can get to SD cheap.

Am I being a total retard here?
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