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Old 11-08-2007, 05:40 AM
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Default QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

<font color="blue"> villain is the same villain as in my previous post (click me, lots of relevant info) and this QQ hand took place after that hand did.

villain is a pretty crazy LAG. hes running super donkishly hot and has several stacks of 300+BB's. somewhat postionally aware, and can sorta read hands but also fearless. hes called down extremly light a couple of times, and has shown a propensity to bluff but mostly when he has pos.
hes at 3 of my tables and running ~40/25 with a postflop AF of 2.5 (which is pretty high considering his huge VPIP) over 600+ hands

by this point we pretty much hate each other and have been shipping lots of pots back and forth, playing back at eash really light, and trying to win every single hand vs each other that we play. villain does lim/call often but this is the first time he has ever limp RR'd in all those hands...

there are sooo many diffrent ways i couldve played this hand and i felt totally lost the whole way</font>


Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $214.45
UTG: $186.95
CO: $168.95
BTN: $54
SB: $104.20

Pre-Flop: Q Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG folds, CO calls $1, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $14</font>, Hero calls $9
<font color="blue"> ok wtf is that [censored]?!
i wanted to 4 bet (and prob shouldve?) but he hadnt done this in over 600 hands so what can he posibly be thinking? </font>


Flop: ($28.50) 7 T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4 (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15
<font color="blue"> is a ch/r better?
are we calling a shove if we ch/r?
how does b/f look? </font>


Turn: ($58.50) K (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32
<font color="blue"> thats a pretty crappy turn card. i think?
i dunno about my line here... probably the most difficult street</font>


River: ($122.50) 5 (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO INSTAbets $107.95 and is All-In</font> HERO WANTS TO BREAK SOMETHING BUT CAN'T CUZ HE BROKE EVERYTHING AFTER THE LAST [CENSORED] HAND
<font color="blue"> ok, so hes either FOS or hes not, right?
i really wasnt sure if i should be trying to play a huge pot or a small-medium one here. what do you guys think?</font>
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

i think minraising the flop is seksi

i think this is a fold these guys love lrr AK
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:54 AM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

4bet pre, c/r flop (call shove), fold turn.

I don't see why you would call turn and now fold to this river blank. Fold turn, or call river imo. You can't expect this crazy LAG to slow down on the river.
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:51 AM
Noam Chomsky Noam Chomsky is offline
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

Sometimes people are such pussies. Why would you want to raise this guy out of the hand at any point? He's a maniac handing stacks away left and right and the hand is played perfectly against this type of opponent. Call river, embrace variance.
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Old 11-08-2007, 10:57 AM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

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Call river, embrace variance.

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Old 11-08-2007, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

yeah, just let him bluff

call river. he tables AK and says 'ty'
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Old 11-08-2007, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

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Call river, embrace variance.

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Old 11-08-2007, 11:07 AM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

Call river.

Disclaimer -- I gave away two buy-ins last night in very similar circumstances so maybe I am a donk.
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

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i think minraising the flop is seksi


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why?
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Old 11-08-2007, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: QQ deep, OOP, vs a Lagtard... WTF WTF WTF!??!

i think you're beat a ton here. i would also raise flop w/ intention of getting it in.
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