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#11
11-08-2006, 06:04 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
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These two factors are irrelevant to my hand's relative strength vs. the villains 3betting range. I don't think postflop AF has anything to do with PF looseness (although i'm not 100% certain) . They are both seperate stats... [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I agree stats tell us very little about a players PF 3-betting range. I think PFR stats can only give us a small indication. However, in this hand I think his AF can indicate that he might not be as strong as he appears when he fires two contiuation bets postflop against a small field when checked to... 
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#12
11-08-2006, 06:17 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
Your reasoning seems good to me Haupt. I think its a close decision.
[ QUOTE ] I don't think the possibility of him having the same hand should sway us into calling down both streets. [/ QUOTE ] Nor do I. The possibility of him having a worse hand (I think this is slightly more likely than you think it is) or the same hand makes me think it might be a call situation. Edit: Well I suppose the possiblity of us having the same cards is 'swaying' me in a sense. However, I'm putting very little weight on it. I think this is okay. We would surely call down (or raise) if we could see his cards...
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#14
11-08-2006, 06:32 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
I think calling with the attention of check/folding the river should be considered. If we assume we have 4 clean out villain only needs to check behind on the river a little more than 2% with a worse hand for it to be profitable.
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#15
11-08-2006, 06:34 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
Is KQ in his range? It would probably be in mine depending. A smaller PP such as 88 or 99 might also be in the realm of remote possibility if he thinks he's got a read. I'm not sure if this matters, but it might be worth pondering.
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#16
11-08-2006, 08:07 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
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Is KQ in his range? It would probably be in mine depending. A smaller PP such as 88 or 99 might also be in the realm of remote possibility if he thinks he's got a read. I'm not sure if this matters, but it might be worth pondering. [/ QUOTE ] Yes, what might his read be of you and the limper? Is A-10s possible?
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#18
11-08-2006, 08:32 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
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w/o doing the math I think we might have a profitable call on the turn if we add our chop equity with another AQ to our 4 outs on the gutterball. [/ QUOTE ] this plus the fact that the river checks through a portion of the time. call, reassess on the end.
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#19
11-08-2006, 09:06 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
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I don't think the possibility of him having the same hand should sway us into calling down both streets. [/ QUOTE ] If we call down and split, we'll have invested 2BB to win 4BB and change, correct?
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