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11-08-2006, 05:02 PM
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5/10 FT Mehhh....?
Villain is 16.9/11.9/4 over around 200 hands. Haven't seen him play too many hands (obviously) or get outta line.
Full Tilt Poker Limit Holdem Ring game Limit: $5/$10 9 players Converter Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, MP3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, 3 folds, MP1 calls, Hero calls. Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (10.5SB, 3 players) MP1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, MP1 calls, Hero calls. Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.75BB, 3 players) MP1 checks, Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero folds. Haupt_234 
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#2
11-08-2006, 05:21 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
Haupt I don't understand the call on the flop, and then folding when you hit the turn. If you were folding to an A on the turn why are you calling the flop bet? Were you just calling for the gutshot? Would you have stayed in if a Q hit?
Peace, Confused
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#3
11-08-2006, 05:28 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
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Haupt I don't understand the call on the flop, and then folding when you hit the turn. If you were folding to an A on the turn why are you calling the flop bet? Were you just calling for the gutshot? Would you have stayed in if a Q hit? Peace, Confused [/ QUOTE ] Gutter.
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#4
11-08-2006, 05:39 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
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Haupt I don't understand the call on the flop, and then folding when you hit the turn. If you were folding to an A on the turn why are you calling the flop bet? Were you just calling for the gutshot? Would you have stayed in if a Q hit? [/ QUOTE ] I was peeling mainly for the GS, since I thought that even if I hit a Q or A, I would still be crushed by villain's likely range... Haupt_234
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#6
11-08-2006, 05:44 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
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Good fold, the only hand you are safe against given the action would be QQ. [/ QUOTE ] I'm not so certain of this. The stats we have tell us little of his PF 3-betting range. However, he appears to be aggressive preflop and postflop. Agressive players can 3-bet with less than QQ in this situation... I think his flop he flop was a standard continuation bet for an aggressive player. I think this tells us even less about his hand. At the turn I think we might be ahead or equal, and we have a draw to the best possible hand. The pot is of good size. A call seems good IMO.
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#7
11-08-2006, 05:53 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
Hey Allday, just a few things I want to point out about your post that I felt differently about while playing the hand
[ QUOTE ] Agressive players can 3-bet with less than QQ... [/ QUOTE ] If he does 3bet with less, I would expect his VPIP to be more than 16.9, even over a 200 hand sample. [ QUOTE ] We might be ahead or equal [/ QUOTE ] I don't think the possibility of him having the same hand should sway us into calling down both streets. While I was playing the hand, I thought that even though I was closing the action HU on the turn with TPGK, the only likely hand I am ahead of is QQ/TT (assuming he bets the turn still, which many TAGs won't) and splitting with AQ. I am behind to basically everything else... Haupt_234
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#8
11-08-2006, 06:17 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
Your reasoning seems good to me Haupt. I think its a close decision.
[ QUOTE ] I don't think the possibility of him having the same hand should sway us into calling down both streets. [/ QUOTE ] Nor do I. The possibility of him having a worse hand (I think this is slightly more likely than you think it is) or the same hand makes me think it might be a call situation. Edit: Well I suppose the possiblity of us having the same cards is 'swaying' me in a sense. However, I'm putting very little weight on it. I think this is okay. We would surely call down (or raise) if we could see his cards...
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#9
11-08-2006, 09:06 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
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I don't think the possibility of him having the same hand should sway us into calling down both streets. [/ QUOTE ] If we call down and split, we'll have invested 2BB to win 4BB and change, correct?
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#10
11-08-2006, 05:30 PM
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Re: 5/10 FT Mehhh....?
I think preflop and flop are good.
Given the villain's high AF, the fact that you are now heads-up, and the decent pot, I would have actually called the turn with your TPGK and draw. His PF aggression suggests that he might be a loose PF reraiser...
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