Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > General Gambling > Sports Betting

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 11-12-2007, 03:26 PM
Austiger Austiger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 4,504
Default Re: Making a Point--Line Shopping Matters

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
And here I thought the name of that system actually meant something. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Definitely means something if one looks--it gives away exactly what I've been doing

Inimcal NFL Algorithm Spotting Systematic Addle-pates


in·im·i·cal
–adjective
2. unfriendly; hostile: a cold, inimical gaze.

NFL
-National Football League

al·go·rithm
–noun a set of rules for solving a problem in a finite number of steps, as for finding the greatest common divisor.

spot·ting
-23. to detect or recognize; locate or identify by seeing: to spot a hiding child.

sys·tem·at·ic
–adjective 1. having, showing, or involving a system, method, or plan: a systematic course of reading; systematic efforts.
2. given to or using a system or method; methodical: a systematic person.
3. arranged in or comprising an ordered system: systematic theology.
4. concerned with classification: systematic botany.
5. pertaining to, based on, or in accordance with a system of classification: the systematic names of plants.

Addle-pate
n. A foolish or dull-witted fellow. [Colloq.]






Also, look at the backwards acronym
it felt appropriate though slighty mean given the context of the experiment

[/ QUOTE ]

I saw the acronym which is why I said that. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 11-12-2007, 03:37 PM
TooTallT TooTallT is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 53
Default Re: Making a Point--Line Shopping Matters

[ QUOTE ]
someone is betting seriously and only using B&M? is this 1991? do some casinos offer -105 or something special these days that I don't know about?


[/ QUOTE ]

B&M and locals are where you're going to find the best lines to bet, especially on public games. LV books are not allowed to lay off action on other books by law, so there's often great numbers to be had. Online WA numbers are a tough nut to crack (obv not even close to impossible) especially when factoring the slight (?) risk of not getting paid.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 11-12-2007, 03:39 PM
TooTallT TooTallT is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 53
Default Re: Making a Point--Line Shopping Matters

[ QUOTE ]
In essence, if you want to bet Jacksonville +3 but shop around and can get them at +3.5, it will make a huge difference long term?

[/ QUOTE ]

It is impossible to win at sportsbetting if you're betting +3 when +3.5 is readily available.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 11-12-2007, 04:06 PM
NajdorfDefense NajdorfDefense is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 8,227
Default Re: Making a Point--Line Shopping Matters

[ QUOTE ]
POTY in this forum for multiple reasons

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 11-12-2007, 04:08 PM
B00T B00T is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 3,011
Default Re: Making a Point--Line Shopping Matters

Here is another way of what MT2R is saying, or perhaps just restating it.

Lets assume some guy named Squareanni Lamer is the best capper of all time. He hits at 62% lifetime and stood the test of time and this is confirmed true by every authority on the issue ever.

You can make money betting the exact opposite of him as long as the price is right. Say X is playing Y and the spread is 5. Say Squareanni has XTeam -5 -105 and it will hit 62% no matter what. If you can get YTeam +5 at +140, and Squareanni is hitting 62%, you will both be long term winners.

The truth is there is no such thing as Squareanni, but even if there was you can still be ahead in the long run hitting at 38% winners if you are getting the proper price. This is not a practical scenario, but if you can identify small edges and focus on factors outside of the athletes in the game, it only adds to your arsenal.

My math has always been awful and probably off in this example but it doesn't change the point.

When you are fine with betting 5 figures on a team where you don't even know one player on it you officially have lost your training wheels [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 11-12-2007, 04:20 PM
Thremp Thremp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Free Kyleb
Posts: 10,163
Default Re: Making a Point--Line Shopping Matters

Bradley one time.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 11-12-2007, 04:21 PM
NajdorfDefense NajdorfDefense is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Manhattan
Posts: 8,227
Default Re: Making a Point--Line Shopping Matters

[ QUOTE ]
Bradxxxx Hard 10 one time!

[/ QUOTE ]
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 11-12-2007, 04:32 PM
B00T B00T is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 3,011
Default Re: Making a Point--Line Shopping Matters

spoken like a true field mouse
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 11-12-2007, 04:34 PM
Thremp Thremp is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Free Kyleb
Posts: 10,163
Default Re: Making a Point--Line Shopping Matters

[ QUOTE ]
spoken like a true field mouse

[/ QUOTE ]

My cold is def 10x worse than when the weekend started and I think I hacked up a lung there.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 11-12-2007, 04:38 PM
hoff21 hoff21 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: IL
Posts: 108
Default Re: Making a Point--Line Shopping Matters

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
someone is betting seriously and only using B&M? is this 1991? do some casinos offer -105 or something special these days that I don't know about?


[/ QUOTE ]

B&M and locals are where you're going to find the best lines to bet, especially on public games. LV books are not allowed to lay off action on other books by law, so there's often great numbers to be had. Online WA numbers are a tough nut to crack (obv not even close to impossible) especially when factoring the slight (?) risk of not getting paid.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is mostly untrue. Tons of the B&M books move their lines on "air". i.e. Don Best shows that the bigger online books moved a game by a point most of the the B&M's follow suit without actually taking a limit bet.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.