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#1
10-29-2007, 05:51 AM
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[100nl] AA facing huge flop raise, shove or fold?
Unknown villain, no stats, he is 1-tabling. I pretty much have to shove or fold here right? Which would you opt for?
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com CO ($111.45) Button ($45.25) SB ($168.70) BB ($49.50) UTG ($124.35) UTG+1 ($72.50) Hero ($100) MP2 ($18.50) MP3 ($125.15) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls $5, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG folds. Flop: ($12.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to $24</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ? 
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#2
10-29-2007, 09:35 AM
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Re: [100nl] AA facing huge flop raise, shove or fold?
I hate this spot...With an unknown villain it makes it a tougher call. However, I've noticed that when someone is only single tabling that they are more often a worse player than someone playing 4 tabling (that might just be an awful/irrelevant/variant observation by me).
It's a tough call. I'd fold it often just because we haven't seen him play enough, but if I was having a bad day I'd probably push and then cuss at my mom upttairs.
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#3
10-29-2007, 09:56 AM
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Re: [100nl] AA facing huge flop raise, shove or fold?
There are too many overpairs and flush draws with overcards that you have beat. He would probably flat call a flopped joint or maybe even a set. Single tablers are generally impatient in contrast to others so he could even be raising 77/88. I vote shove.
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#4
10-29-2007, 09:56 AM
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Re: [100nl] AA facing huge flop raise, shove or fold?
It has to look blatant you have a very strong overpair, yet he doesn't seem to care. In fact, his bet looks sized for you to reraise all-in. You holding the Ace diamonds strongly cuts down on the possibility he's being aggressive with a flush draw. So what are you beating? KK and QQ *maybe*. Most likely he's hit a set. I'd fold unless I had a good reason to think he was an awful player, or was on tilt [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#5
10-29-2007, 10:01 AM
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Re: [100nl] AA facing huge flop raise, shove or fold?
"It has to look blatant you have a very strong overpair, yet he doesn't seem to care."
Or he's thinking 'I put him on AK.' It's a random unknown at 100 NL. He's a spazztard until proven otherwise IMO.
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#6
10-29-2007, 10:04 AM
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Re: [100nl] AA facing huge flop raise, shove or fold?
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Or he's thinking 'I put him on AK.' It's a random unknown at 100 NL. He's a spazztard until proven otherwise IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I did say I'd fold unless I had good reason to think he was awful...so I guess I give a lot more respect to unknowns than you! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#7
10-29-2007, 10:06 AM
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Re: [100nl] AA facing huge flop raise, shove or fold?
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[ QUOTE ] Or he's thinking 'I put him on AK.' It's a random unknown at 100 NL. He's a spazztard until proven otherwise IMO. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I did say I'd fold unless I had good reason to think he was awful...so I guess I give a lot more respect to unknowns than you! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] Your name is appropriate you random 100 NL spewtard!! [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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#8
10-29-2007, 10:14 AM
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Re: [100nl] AA facing huge flop raise, shove or fold?
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It has to look blatant you have a very strong overpair [/ QUOTE ] I dissagree with that. Hero's bet could just as easily be overcards, it's just a standard CB. Still, it's a tough dessicsion OOP against a complete unkown. Real tough. Don't like stacking off against an unkown, but without knowing how he plays there could still be a lot of hands we beat here. LOL, not much help, sorry.
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#9
10-29-2007, 10:22 AM
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Re: [100nl] AA facing huge flop raise, shove or fold?
I'm a little confused as to where you are getting this read from. What about preflop raise in MP and c-bet reduces his range to KK+?
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#10
10-29-2007, 10:23 AM
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Re: [100nl] AA facing huge flop raise, shove or fold?
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There are too many overpairs and flush draws with overcards that you have beat. He would probably flat call a flopped joint or maybe even a set. Single tablers are generally impatient in contrast to others so he could even be raising 77/88. I vote shove. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, shove is probably the best action, just hate doing it blind. The fact that I stacked off in similar possitions a couple times yestreday is probably afecting my thought process. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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