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Old 10-29-2007, 05:47 AM
Grinding2Ecstasy Grinding2Ecstasy is offline
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Default [100nl] KK, flop top set, but FD gets there on turn...

Thoughts on my play of this hand?

Villain is 36/6/1 after 60 hands.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($150.50)
BB ($90.50)
UTG ($85.70)
UTG+1 ($92.15)
Hero ($100)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($101.10)
Button ($99.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $4.

Flop: ($11.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $7</font>, UTG+1 calls $7.

Turn: ($25.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, UTG+1 calls $15.

River: ($55.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $55.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $73 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 calls $9.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: $193.65
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Old 10-29-2007, 05:55 AM
pattay pattay is offline
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Default Re: [100nl] KK, flop top set, but FD gets there on turn...

this looks like, really standard to me
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:37 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] KK, flop top set, but FD gets there on turn...

Fine by me, he could have many other hands than the flush he reamed you with.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:54 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] KK, flop top set, but FD gets there on turn...

This looks fine, but I'd bet a bit more on flop and turn.
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Old 10-29-2007, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] KK, flop top set, but FD gets there on turn...

Bet like $9 on the flop please.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] KK, flop top set, but FD gets there on turn...

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Bet like $9 on the flop please.

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And check behind the turn please. Pattay this is not at all standard. This situation has been discussed over and over again, standard move is to check behind turn and call on the river UI, push the river when improved if you can.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] KK, flop top set, but FD gets there on turn...

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And check behind the turn please. Pattay this is not at all standard. This situation has been discussed over and over again, standard move is to check behind turn and call on the river UI, push the river when improved if you can.

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This is highly dependant on your opponent.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] KK, flop top set, but FD gets there on turn...

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Bet like $9 on the flop please.

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And check behind the turn please. Pattay this is not at all standard. This situation has been discussed over and over again, standard move is to check behind turn and call on the river UI, push the river when improved if you can.

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meh, I like betting the turn here still.
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Old 10-29-2007, 11:55 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] KK, flop top set, but FD gets there on turn...

Betting the turn against an AF of 1 is spewing. Raising this river against this AF is worst. I think u have to fold the river here and that's why u don't want to raise the turn because u can safely call on a blank river and push on a pairing river.
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Old 10-29-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: [100nl] KK, flop top set, but FD gets there on turn...

ok maybe this isnt as standard as i thought, however, i dont like checking the turn because the only way thats right is if the villain has a flush. the way this is played, on the turn 444 and 555 are possibilities, he could have been floating the flop with the ace of hearts and picked up his nut flush draw, he could have had AK, i mean this is 100nl, its not like the only hand the villain is calling the turn bet here with is a flush. probably the worst thing is checking this turn and seeing a fourth heart come out, and checking down when the villain had like 555 or something because of all that value you can get from a turn bet. im sticking with raising the turn here, still think its the best option
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