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Old 10-29-2007, 06:32 PM
Grinding2Ecstasy Grinding2Ecstasy is offline
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Default [100nl] Two funny AA spots with big PF multiway action

Ok two situations that are in a way similar and dangerous.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Spot 1

MP2 ($102.40)
MP3 ($49.20)
CO ($103.05)
Button ($89)
SB ($50.80)
BB ($21.90)
Hero ($113.85)
UTG+1 ($132.20)
MP1 ($102.40)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, UTG+1 calls $3.50, MP1 calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $3.50, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $25</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $21.50, UTG+1 calls $21.50, MP1 calls $21.50, CO folds.

Flop: ($105) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $45</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $88.85 (All-In)</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, Button calls $19 (All-In).


Spot 2

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MP2 ($146.25)
CO ($117.60)
Button ($143.15)
SB ($98)
Hero ($162.95)
UTG ($275)
UTG+1 ($41.50)
MP1 ($31.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $3.50, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, UTG calls $15, CO calls $12, SB calls $12.

Flop: ($64) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $29</font>, SB folds, Hero folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $259 (All-In)</font>, CO calls $72.60 (All-In).
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Old 10-29-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: [100nl] Two funny AA spots with big PF multiway action

I'm not sure why you think hand #1 is dangerous. The way you played it is fine.

Hand #2, I don't think you can just check fold the flop. What indication is there that someone has you beat? And you fold to a bet that is less than half the pot? I would definitely bet out $40 or so.
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Old 10-29-2007, 08:17 PM
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Default Re: [100nl] Two funny AA spots with big PF multiway action

WHAT THE [censored] ARE YOU DOING IN HAND 2? THIS IS LIKE THE WORST I'VE EVER SEEN A HAND PLAYED ON THE FLOP. PLEASE TELL ME ITS NOT TRUE.

I would probably do something fancy like lead $25 or $30 on the flop in hand 1 and obviously call a shove, but this line is also fine. I wouldn't mind just calling either and seeing if anyone else comes along. Then you can open shove the turn.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: [100nl] Two funny AA spots with big PF multiway action

Hand one is fine [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Hand 2 makes Baby Jeebus cry.
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Old 10-29-2007, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: [100nl] Two funny AA spots with big PF multiway action

What were you thinking in hand #2? This is horrible
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Old 10-30-2007, 03:13 AM
Grinding2Ecstasy Grinding2Ecstasy is offline
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Default Re: [100nl] Two funny AA spots with big PF multiway action

Ok guys I termed it dangerous because these games are REALLLLLY set-miney. Seeing flops four-way with AA in a big pot with generally nitty players isn't my favorite situation.
I also am out of position on both hands.

On Hand 1, button had QQ which kinda tilted me and caused me to play Hand 2 so terribly. This is basically why I felt bad enough to post it. Hand 2 was very soon after, and a very similar scenario, four people putting in a very large bet preflop while I hold AA. I think I steamed that so many people called the 16, and the flop was a set-miner's delight and I pussed out. For the record, bet and stack off on flop is the consensus approach here? Bet and fold to raise seems kinda dumb.
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] Two funny AA spots with big PF multiway action

You need to play the best hand in poker with a little more authority.
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Old 10-30-2007, 04:54 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] Two funny AA spots with big PF multiway action

Hand 1: I push preflop
Hand 2: SPRs are in the commitment range, but I dont feel good about stacking off here, but will.
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Old 10-30-2007, 09:56 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] Two funny AA spots with big PF multiway action

Hand 1 I think you have to push preflop with all the action. You only want one call.

Hand 2 I stack off as well. Sure, 79 and sets are in his range but so are OESDs and overpairs....I would bet out as well.....
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Old 10-30-2007, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: [100nl] Two funny AA spots with big PF multiway action

I push pf in hand 1 and raise on the flop in hand 2.
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