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Old 07-11-2007, 04:51 AM
Daliman Daliman is offline
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Default WSOP ME: WTF did I get myself into.

3/4 way thru level 1, blinds 50-100 I have ~21k, and have been pretty average in aggression. I am in hijack, player two to my right (Weak/loose) limps, I have J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], and raise to 450. CO folds, button(Austrian guy with ~30k), who has been fairly active, but has also shown QQ and AA already, as well as called 2 postflop bets with 2nd pair with ace on board, reraises to 1900. It seemed as if he was raising more with somewhat vulnerable hands, but I couldn't be positive. Folds around to me, and after some thought, I make it 4900 to go. He calls. At this point, I can't tell if he can have AK here, or maybe even some crappier middle pair.

Flop: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I bet 5300, he thinks for about 15seconds, then calls. At this point I am done with the hand, until:

Turn A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I shove.....
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:08 AM
nath nath is offline
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Default Re: WSOP ME: WTF did I get myself into.

Well, you better hope to hell he has KK and folds. I'd just call PF, and when my 4-bet gets called, I just shut down unimproved.
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Old 07-11-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: WSOP ME: WTF did I get myself into.

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Well, you better hope to hell he has KK and folds. I'd just call PF, and when my 4-bet gets called, I just shut down unimproved.

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Old 07-11-2007, 05:15 AM
TCA TCA is offline
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Default Re: WSOP ME: WTF did I get myself into.

I really don't like it, I think KK is the only hand he even potentially thinks about folding that is beating you or he might have the other JJ. If he has AA,QQ or AKdd he isn't folding.

Pre-flop I would definately flat call, I doubt he is putting in 1/4 effective stacks with less than JJ but its ME so who knows.
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Old 07-11-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: WSOP ME: WTF did I get myself into.

this is [censored] awful
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:07 AM
Tyler Durden Tyler Durden is offline
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Default Re: WSOP ME: WTF did I get myself into.

I am interested to see how this one turns out.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:15 AM
ImOnWheels ImOnWheels is offline
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Default Re: WSOP ME: WTF did I get myself into.

This looks like QQ maaaybe AA to me. You would think that KK would push flop over your bet to make sure a turn like that doesn;t happen. 1010? I think he has to fold this flop with 1010... maybe even fold PF.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:19 AM
trevorwc trevorwc is offline
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Default Re: WSOP ME: WTF did I get myself into.

This is the type of play that the "other guy" is supposed to make so you can say "some donkey stacked off on the first level with JJ with 200 BB and two overs". I mean, if you got him to lay down the other JJ or something like TT, good for you - I just don't think it's the optimal play.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:33 AM
JooWish622 JooWish622 is offline
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Default Re: WSOP ME: WTF did I get myself into.

given his reraising range, you're either winning already (not too often now given the A), or he now beats you, and beats you badly.

i think any flush draw+ a may call you here,

how did this turn out?
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Old 07-11-2007, 11:36 AM
s33w33d s33w33d is offline
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Default Re: WSOP ME: WTF did I get myself into.

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how did this turn out?

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Badly for sure. Just don't know if he made a hero call with KK or a snap call with a monster.
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