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Old 05-11-2007, 01:16 AM
TheTid TheTid is offline
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Default Re: Dear Stars: Allow Datamining

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Dear Stars:

1) DON'T allow data-mining;

2) Take more effective measures to prevent data-mining;

3) Take *pro-active* measures to detect and eliminate bot accounts;

4)Get rid of HUDs;

5)Reduce the number of tables that can be played to 4-6.

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Get rid of HUDs?? reduce nr. of table....this guy is a joke

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Obviousely you are so incompetant that you cant be a winning player w/o your bot, just like the others who are writing different programs.
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: Dear Stars: Allow Datamining

I am all for Stars opening up to datamining. Not only for making sure the guard is at post but IMO it levels the field for everyone to do it if they wanted to instead of others having the advantage of doing it quietly. I don't mine stars, but that's because I'm not one for violating rules and putting my funds at risk, but i would certainly start if it was allowed.

Also, using a HUD is a choice. Use it or don't. I see it as another skill to learning the game of poker and IMO gives you a better understanding of the game. Most players don't use it effectively anyway. Does it give an advantage? Sure, but then again, that's where you choose to use it or not. In golf you have the advantage of using a tee but you have the choice of waving that advantage if you want to hit your driver off the deck all the time. In the end its simply more input for HUMAN to make choices, it doesn't tell you what to do by any means. It's like having the skills to notice the many weak/strong tells in live play, now you have an extra advantage on a player others don't, use it or don't but it's certainly not cheating.

Lastly, it seems retarded for stars to ban HUDs or mining if they are going to allow "Decision Support software" which is basically a bot that tells you what to do. This is the real change that needs to be seen in the T&Cs. The fact that this is allowed is shocking and pressure should be put on them to change that.
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: Dear Stars: Allow Datamining

please ignore my ignorance, but i didnt even know what HUD was until i googled it just now. what kind of HUD do most people use? do all of the pros use them?
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:40 AM
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Default Re: Dear Stars: Allow Datamining

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please ignore my ignorance, but i didnt even know what HUD was until i googled it just now. what kind of HUD do most people use? do all of the pros use them?

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In fact, it's mostly used by losers that can't figure out things by themselves.
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:46 AM
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Default Re: Dear Stars: Allow Datamining

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please ignore my ignorance, but i didnt even know what HUD was until i googled it just now. what kind of HUD do most people use? do all of the pros use them?

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In fact, it's mostly used by losers that can't figure out things by themselves.

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Loc: Forever Doomswitched

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lol, figuring out are we?

traffic1234,
http://pokeracesoftware.com/

That is what's generally used in conjunction with poker tracker. Not all pros use them. Some do some don't, I've heard of many top pros that choose not to. Sbrugby has one but says he doesn't use it at his normal levels but that's also because he naturally has a small player pool. I have a feeling if you don't know what a HUD is you don't know who sbrugby is so you have some reading to do.
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Old 05-11-2007, 02:50 AM
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Default Re: Dear Stars: Allow Datamining

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please ignore my ignorance, but i didnt even know what HUD was until i googled it just now. what kind of HUD do most people use? do all of the pros use them?

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In fact, it's mostly used by losers that can't figure out things by themselves.

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Loc: Forever Doomswitched

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lol, figuring out are we?

Humor... ever heard of it? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 05-11-2007, 03:48 AM
ibluffoldladies ibluffoldladies is offline
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Default Re: Dear Stars: Allow Datamining

NO! Make it so that pokerstars security can datamine, not the customer. The site's security measures should take care of this.
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:17 PM
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Default Re: Dear Stars: Allow Datamining

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Here's a better idea. Have someone who works for stars analyze all the hand history data that they can gather internally.

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Right. Brilliant.

That's what the people who got suspicious with Absolute Poker should have done too. Ask someone who works for Absolute Poker to analyze all the hand history data that they can gather internally.

And I know just the man for the job.
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: Dear Stars: Allow Datamining

Because we needed two of these threads at once.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:55 PM
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Default Re: Dear Stars: Allow Datamining

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Because we needed two of these threads at once.

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yea why the [censored] did you bump a thread from may?
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