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Old 10-15-2007, 12:09 AM
AZplaya AZplaya is offline
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How many of you have ever valuebluffed in a situation like this? I can honestly say valuebluff isn't even in my bag of tricks. I just don't think you run into enough opponents at microstakes to make this profitable. Who folds an over pair here to your shove? No one.

Am I bad?

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from my experience this villian makes more moves than most 50 playes, probably why whyzze has seen him do some retarded stuff. He is a petty good hand reader though, so if I check behind he will know I'm not in love with my hand and that I will probably puke if he shoves teh river. I def think he's capable of shoving the river with 99/1010, but I'm not sure he calls a flop bet in a 3 bet pot with 2 overs on the board from me though.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: KK in 3 bet pot against solid tag - NL$50 6m

I just bet the turn here, and take any play away from him. You're obv not folding the river if he calls or pushes over your turn bet.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:02 AM
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Default Re: KK in 3 bet pot against solid tag - NL$50 6m

bet for value. also, the term 'valuebluff' is highly unapplicable here...you never get a better hand to fold.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:20 AM
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bet for value. also, the term 'valuebluff' is highly unapplicable here...you never get a better hand to fold.

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lol, that's what I'm questioning.
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: KK in 3 bet pot against solid tag - NL$50 6m

I am so confused.

Why would you ever, ever, ever check behind here?

I would keep betting and expect to be shown AQ, KQ, or a club draw almost everytime.
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Old 10-15-2007, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: KK in 3 bet pot against solid tag - NL$50 6m

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I checked behind and spiked a king on the river. He shoved and I double fist-pumped snap called and stacked his AA. Thoughts on villian's line with AA here?
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: KK in 3 bet pot against solid tag - NL$50 6m

I don't think his range is exclusive to sets, but alot of you seriously underestimate the amount of people who would cc a set on the flop.

And there's really not even anything that wrong with it
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Old 10-15-2007, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: KK in 3 bet pot against solid tag - NL$50 6m

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I checked behind and spiked a king on the river. He shoved and I double fist-pumped snap called and stacked his AA. Thoughts on villian's line with AA here?

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If I call AA pf here it is with the intention of check/jamming almost all flops
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:20 PM
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Default Re: KK in 3 bet pot against solid tag - NL$50 6m

That's a very weird line for him to take with AA. Nothing you'd expect from an agg 20/16. Very tricky.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:00 PM
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Default Re: KK in 3 bet pot against solid tag - NL$50 6m

baba-joon always gets his AA stacked cause he plays it like [censored]
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