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Old 01-27-2007, 03:24 PM
ycjason ycjason is offline
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Default 60s -- small flush on river, call allin raise?

PokerStars Game #8147144520: Tournament #41575719, $55+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/01/27 - 13:16:28 (ET)
Table '41575719 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ralessio (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: BlindingBeam (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: hobkins37 (1460 in chips)
Seat 4: Ecceback (1520 in chips)
Seat 5: iltw555 (1480 in chips)
Seat 6: bigpapapogo (2110 in chips)
Seat 7: mrsomaha (1500 in chips)
Seat 8: b4nanskal (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: 19cris80 (940 in chips)
Ecceback: posts small blind 10
iltw555: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to iltw555 [6c 3c]
bigpapapogo: calls 20
mrsomaha: folds
b4nanskal: folds
19cris80: calls 20
ralessio: folds
BlindingBeam: folds
hobkins37: calls 20
Ecceback: folds
iltw555: checks
*** FLOP *** [Tc 2h Ac]
iltw555: checks
bigpapapogo: bets 80
19cris80: folds
hobkins37: calls 80
iltw555: calls 80
*** TURN *** [Tc 2h Ac] [8h]
iltw555: checks
bigpapapogo: checks
hobkins37: checks
*** RIVER *** [Tc 2h Ac 8h] [4c]
iltw555: bets 120
bigpapapogo: raises 1890 to 2010 and is all-in
hobkins37: folds
iltw555: calls 1260 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bigpapapogo: shows [9c Kc] (a flush, Ace high)
iltw555: ?

this is just in the beginning of the tourny, no reads at all.
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Old 01-27-2007, 03:57 PM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
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Default Re: 60s -- small flush on river, call allin raise?

I wouldn't call that flop bet if you're even going to consider not stacking off when you hit the flush.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:11 PM
DaN_05 DaN_05 is offline
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Default Re: 60s -- small flush on river, call allin raise?

Pot is what 330 on the river and you bet 120? I'd bet river for more like 200-250 ish. And yeah djj is right, if you're gonna call the flop you gotta call the river.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: 60s -- small flush on river, call allin raise?

well i mean the obvious play after he shows the nuts is to muck.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:49 PM
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Default Re: 60s -- small flush on river, call allin raise?

your riv bet sucks big time.
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Old 01-27-2007, 04:52 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: 60s -- small flush on river, call allin raise?

I can't read uncoverted HHs for some reason, especially when they are from PS.
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: 60s -- small flush on river, call allin raise?

Yea, I fold to the flop bet

Since you called, you pretty much have to get stacked here. Check/calling is a possibility as well.
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Old 01-27-2007, 07:09 PM
wiggs73 wiggs73 is offline
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Default Re: 60s -- small flush on river, call allin raise?

bigt,

for real tho?

i like his riv bet

edit - yeah i dont like the size of it... not sure if you mean in general, betting the river sucks, or if he should have bet more. holla. i'd have bet like 200.
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Old 01-27-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: 60s -- small flush on river, call allin raise?

Everyone saying he shouldn't call the flop if he's folding the river that is awful logic. That said I stack off here.
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Old 01-27-2007, 09:03 PM
djj6835 djj6835 is offline
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Default Re: 60s -- small flush on river, call allin raise?

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Everyone saying he shouldn't call the flop if he's folding the river that is awful logic. That said I stack off here.


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Why? You can't justify a flop call based on implied odds and then fold to any heat later on. That negates the entire reason for making the call on the flop unless you reall think villain call a big river bet.
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