NL500 KQ - standard?

[_JerryD_]

Yeah, folding, that's my basic line but just wanted to check this one out. There was heavy 3-betting going on and some 4betting too.

Standard is bit stupid in the post name, basically meant that is this a float that can be done profitably or just serious spewing.

[FireStorm]

I have no idea why we're calling the flop here. At best, we have four outs to the nuts, and six outs to pair, but we're calling $123 when he only has another $300 behind? Doesn't seem like an ideal peel. Agreed that there are many times where one/both your overs aren't good.

[zwolfe05]

calling flop is horrible. shove or fold flop.

[_JerryD_]

i don't really understand why shove would be better. not many hands that beat me fold.

I guess calling isn't good then either but basically i was thinking that I have 4 outs to nuts, 6 outs to a possible best hand and i can take down the pot often when then turn is a blank 'cos i doubt it the villain will 2nd barrel he's AK/AQ/XX after my call.

Tried something out of the ordinary, but i guess i shoud stick to my normal solid routines.

That has to be a suspicious looking and dangerous call in villain´s perspective still though.

Edit: Okay, i guess i now give Ak/AQ a chance to hit too and i couldn't extract any more money from them anyway so shoving would be better in that sense. The more i think about it the more i agree that this is quite bad. Not the worst, but bad still. I think I should fold KQ preflop still if iäm not playing this flop on position, not sure.

[_JerryD_]

But if you decide to call pre-flop 3-bets with KQ, shouldn't you shove this flop then????

[danjohncochane]

Yes that is what you should do SHOOOOVE