More FPS frpm SirWatts?

TheNewf · #1 06-09-2007, 05:37 AM

$5K PL Holdem, blinds 50/100. Folds to Eli Elezra on the button who makes it 350. I call in the BB with 77, about 8K more effective behind. Flop Q97 2 hearts. I check (I should probably just lead but either way can't be bad) and he checks behind. Turn 9, I bet 600 and he calls. River is a low heart. I check.... Thoughts?

Bakes · #2 06-09-2007, 05:46 AM

this deep i think a flop check is fine, it seems like he will bet and call a c/r with a fairly wide range (unless his tourney play is different from what i have seen on tv). I think you should bet the river and let him raise you with a flush, or call with his 66 that he was playing showdown with.

mikeJ · #3 06-09-2007, 05:50 AM

I think he can call w/ a lot of hands, but will check a lot of them behind. Isn't elezra the type to call w/ like A high on turn? I don't think a river check is going to induce a bluff all that often, and if you really think it does, then perhaps a small lead for 1k would be more appropriate, trying to induce a bluffraise, while still possibly getting value from a pair like 88.

betgo · #4 06-09-2007, 09:51 AM

I would generally check the river. You lose a lot less if you are beat, and sometimes he bluffs or even value bets a weaker hand. It is certainly easier to play if you check. Villain probably doesn't check the flop with a flush draw, so betting and calling a raise might be good.

In pot limit, I like leading into the raiser OOP on the flop. If he bets, then checkraising or check/calling both have problems, and you don't like it when he checks behind.

bigballz · #5 06-09-2007, 05:08 PM

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NoahSD · #6 06-09-2007, 05:51 PM

Wow, yeah. I don't know why I thought a check was good first time I read this.

Ansky is obv right for the reasons he gave.

Eagles · #7 06-09-2007, 08:31 PM

Ignore my previous post the more I think about it c/r is pretty bad.

gravycakes · #8 06-10-2007, 12:24 AM

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Ignore my previous post the more I think about it c/r is pretty bad.

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registrar · #9 06-09-2007, 10:03 AM

This seems OK. I donk more than most from the blinds, so I donk here, check the turn and bet the river. But if it's gone check/bet then I can see a check on the river, although I'd still probably bet because I'd expect his calling range to be way wider than his betting/bluffing range. I've no idea how wide he calls a check-raise and this is key so I'd play it safe and bet.

Eagles · #10 06-09-2007, 12:09 PM

PF is obv fine.

On the flop c/r is good. Unless you've been donking a lot of flops I don't see why you'd do it know.

The turn is for sure a bet.

As played I like the river c/r I think most hands he's calling a bet with he will bet himself so try to bloat the pot and let him make a call with Qx or w/e.