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Old 10-28-2007, 08:18 AM
kimchi kimchi is offline
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Default How much rake do you pay after bonus/rb on SSSH tables?

This is all for 6max limit. You can get close to 100% effective rakeback on the Cryptos at the low limits - especially if you hit the higher tiers on your rb deal.

Since I suck at poker, most of my winnings come from rakeback + bonuses, and only 1BB/100 at these small stakes come from table winnings, so I decided to calculate how much rb+ bonus was worth on my home site - Crypto. Crypto's rake is high but they also have good bonus+rb deals.

I don't have data for other sites, so I would be really interestd if someone could calculate how much rake they pay, and how much of the house rake the bonus/rb deal refunds.

6 max limit Crypto sites have tiered rake structure and different bonus stuctures. I've assumed (an average of) 25% rakeback and 5 points per $1 for Crypto bonus structure.

-I've listed the limit with total effective rakeback
-average BB/100 lost per player to the rake
-BB/100 gained from rakeback + bonus
-average table VPIP% (excluding my stats)
-average table PFR% (excluding my stats)

$1/$2: 0.29BB/100 cost to play, 92% rakeback
-3.77BB/100 paid
+3.48BB/100 Bonus+rb
VIP 38.3%
PFR 12.6%

$2/$4: 0.33BB/100 cost to play, 92% rakeback
-3.95BB/100 paid
+3.62BB/100 bonus+rb
VIP 40.2%
PFR 13.8%

$3/$6: 0.96BB/100 cost to play, 77% rakeback
-4.14BB/100 paid
+3.18BB/100 bonus+rb
VIP 43%
PFR 15.8%

$5/$10: 1BB/100 cost to play, 71% rakeback
-3.37BB/100 paid
+2.37BB/100 bonus+rb
VIP 42.5%
PFR 15.9%

This data is obviously dependent on table selection, and whether you find tables full of TAGs, LAGs, maniacs, or stations.

All this data was calculated from my pokertracker. If anyone could do the same for different sites, it might be interesting to compare. Some sites use contributed rb and bonus are deducted from MGR - so this would also need to be calculated.
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