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Old 10-17-2007, 12:33 AM
Tryptamean Tryptamean is offline
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Default Do you pay off this donkbet?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

River: (6.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>
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Old 10-17-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: Do you pay off this donkbet?

I would. I think you'll see a busted draw or something like 55 often enough.
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Old 10-17-2007, 02:52 AM
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Default Re: Do you pay off this donkbet?

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I would. I think you'll see a busted draw or something like 55 often enough.

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Old 10-17-2007, 03:39 AM
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Default Re: Do you pay off this donkbet?

I agree I would have to pay this off but this is more interesting than it seems. After getting 3 bet preflop is he really donk bettig representing an ace all that often without actually having it. I am gonna have to consider my play here basically because the busted draw is qt and you already hold a q so that basically leaves midpairs....hmmmmm
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Old 10-17-2007, 05:29 AM
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Default Re: Do you pay off this donkbet?

I would too, 7.75:1. KQ, 88, 55, KT, 98s are all possible bluffing hands here. Some other KXs might also be possible: K9,K8,K7.

AK, JJ-AA not likely, and even AQ would probably have to be discounted a bit (assuming 10/20 is more aggressive than the levels I'm used to).

AJ, AT, A7, A9, A8 are all very possible.

A6-A2 probably wouldn't continue past the flop.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:34 AM
Tryptamean Tryptamean is offline
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Default Re: Do you pay off this donkbet?

I suppose that this hand is pretty boring, but it just got me thinking that nobody ever folds here, so this should be a bad bluff and I should expect this to be a value bet most of the time. For instance, if I was villian here, TT would never be good. Because of that, I started looking for a reason to fold, but since this guy was unknown, I couldn't count on him knowing this is a bad spot to bluff.

In any case, if a reasonable-playing TAG donks this river, I think this can be a fold, even though I typically pay off most opponents.
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