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01-09-2007, 02:59 AM
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Re: Fold this AK PF?
You're both among the big stacks and unless you've been nuts and/or he's been re-stealing you're behind his range, right. I guess he could have AQ but that's the only hand you should be ahead of. Getting 2.3 to 1 odds. You're 2 to 1 to make a pair. If he has AA/KK and you make a pair, you're obviously getting stacked. If he has a smaller pair I don't think you get paid off. Without spending time cranking out the math this feels like an -EV call.
You have folding equity pre-flop but I'm pretty sure you're a slight dog - maybe 40/60. Does he fold JJ/TT here? If so then a push is likely +EV but not hugely. So, I do think this is a time where AK can be folded. 
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#2
01-09-2007, 03:03 AM
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Re: Fold this AK PF?
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You're both among the big stacks and unless you've been nuts and/or he's been re-stealing you're behind his range, right. I guess he could have AQ but that's the only hand you should be ahead of. Getting 2.3 to 1 odds. You're 2 to 1 to make a pair. If he has AA/KK and you make a pair, you're obviously getting stacked. If he has a smaller pair I don't think you get paid off. Without spending time cranking out the math this feels like an -EV call. You have folding equity pre-flop but I'm pretty sure you're a slight dog - maybe 40/60. Does he fold JJ/TT here? If so then a push is likely +EV but not hugely. So, I do think this is a time where AK can be folded. [/ QUOTE ] Loyd, hero has been active and his hand is now disguised against a thinking player.
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#3
01-09-2007, 03:17 AM
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Re: Fold this AK PF?
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You're both among the big stacks [/ QUOTE ] They are both big stacks at the table, but they do not have more than 12 of M either still away from the money. At Stars this probably means that this table is unusually low stacked compared to the overall field. You will soon need to double up to go deep into the money as a contender, and if AK is not a hand to do that with against one reraiser I don't know how many others are. I will just shove and see the remaining five cards if get called.
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#4
01-09-2007, 03:08 AM
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Re: Fold this AK PF?
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Reads: I had been a bit more active but had solid to premium hands each time since villian was moved to the table. Villian had also shown down strong hands. Looked afterward to see he was in top 30 on TLB for year, still early i know. [/ QUOTE ]
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#5
01-10-2007, 12:29 AM
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Re: Fold this AK PF?
i didnt see what blind levels are but theres 1850+ 5450=7300 in pot and its 3600 to call (2 to 1). AK is only less than about coin flip vs KK AA; I call here
other bonus is that if you lose coin flip you are still ok
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#7
01-10-2007, 12:41 AM
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Re: Fold this AK PF?
stop and going is terrible. I see that play all the time and it's one of the worst moves you can make because it shows you just don't get what you're trying to do...if you were ahead of him PF somehow, why are you now shoving when there's a good chance you're not? if he has a big pair and there's no A/K on the flop, what are you doing?
I mean, *calling* preflop w. no plan is certainly not good, but it's miles ahead of a stop and go
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#9
01-10-2007, 11:34 AM
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Re: Fold this AK PF?
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half of me says just stick it in, you have AK with 20xbb in a $20 but then the other half says people dont 3bet light here at all [/ QUOTE ] so which is your better half? honestly, this was just one of those rare situations that i can find a fold with AKo. Had i been suited, i think it is more a shove than a fold.
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#10
01-10-2007, 01:35 PM
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Re: Fold this AK PF?
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[ QUOTE ] half of me says just stick it in, you have AK with 20xbb in a $20 but then the other half says people dont 3bet light here at all [/ QUOTE ] so which is your better half? honestly, this was just one of those rare situations that i can find a fold with AKo. Had i been suited, i think it is more a shove than a fold. [/ QUOTE ] I don't understand the strength you give to your cards when they are suited & going heads-up. You only get a flush 5% of the time. I have a tendency to not want to risk it all with AK when I believe there is a good chance of being up against QQ-AA,AK.
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