400 Party - 3bet Tens on J-x-x, he shoves flop ?

raze · #1 10-23-2007, 04:58 PM

I've been here for 10 hands and haven't played a single one. UTG is huge fish, and this guy has tried to isolate him 2 or 3 times already. He's 23/20/3.5 over 500 mined and we haven't played. Also, I'm sporting a brand new SN as of yesterday so I'm unknown.

What's with the shove?

Party Poker, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $716.21
Hero (SB): $390
BB: $281.80
UTG: $213.91
CO: $904.30

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG calls $4, CO folds, BTN raises to $20, Hero raises to $70, 2 folds, BTN calls $50

Flop: ($148) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $88, BTN raises to $646.21 and is All-In

Eagles · #2 10-23-2007, 07:11 PM

Whats with the flop bet?

rand · #3 10-23-2007, 07:17 PM

fold?

i dont like flop bet without history

Mossberg · #4 10-23-2007, 08:48 PM

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Whats with the flop bet?

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out of curiosity, what is your plan if you aren't cbetting this flop?

raze · #5 10-23-2007, 08:53 PM

Don't like the flop bet, as in check/fold flop to a decent sized bet?

*** · #6 10-23-2007, 09:03 PM

Don't 3-bet preflop. Look what happens.

d2themfi · #7 10-23-2007, 09:06 PM

easy fold, esp with an unknown screen name. i think this is actually a c/f here mostly. The button has decent stats and just flatted more than 1/6th of his effective stack. He should have TT+ here almost always

raze · #8 10-23-2007, 09:29 PM

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easy fold, esp with an unknown screen name. i think this is actually a c/f here mostly. The button has decent stats and just flatted more than 1/6th of his effective stack. He should have TT+ here almost always

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Makes sense. I don't get the crude AI raise though. If he has Aces, Kings, or a set, he wants to milk me. If he has 99 (or TT), he'll peel for my smallish flop bet. If he has a smaller pocket pair or overcards, he'll...

homeboy604 · #9 10-24-2007, 12:43 AM

bet at least 100 on flop, so you're decision is easier.
def fold as played.

stackingboxes · #10 10-24-2007, 12:55 AM

I only see 9T doing this, unless he is tiltin
i mean of the hands u beat that is..